Apostolics who have been baptized in Jesus name have their sins washed away. We believe in one God. Is that experience much different than a traditional trinitarian pentecostal or christian? We sing the songs of trinitarian worship leaders, we all pray and feel the presence of God. What makes the apostolic experience unique or any different from a trinitarian pentecostal or christian experience? Do we have any exclusive privileges?
i think that scripture applies to who can be saved or not saved. saved people have a unique experience with god as compared to the unsaved. my question is about what is the difference of experience between saved folk, apostolic, trinitarian pentecostals and christian?
Apostolics who have been baptized in Jesus name have their sins washed away. We believe in one God. Is that experience much different than a traditional trinitarian pentecostal or christian? We sing the songs of trinitarian worship leaders, we all pray and feel the presence of God. What makes the apostolic experience unique or any different from a trinitarian pentecostal or christian experience? Do we have any exclusive privileges?
Well, according to the beliefs of some, even though trinity and oneness pentecostals may live godly lives, may love the Lord, may shout and speak with tongues, the trinity folks will go to hell because:
they do not believe in oneness (although oneness folks can't agree among themselves just what oneness is)
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they haven't had the right words spoken over them when they got baptized in water (although oneness folks can't agree among themselves just what those words are and are not)
i think that scripture applies to who can be saved or not saved. saved people have a unique experience with god as compared to the unsaved. my question is about what is the difference of experience between saved folk, apostolic, trinitarian pentecostals and christian?
Ok. I did not understand what you were trying to say.
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Originally Posted by tv1a
Depends on how one defines apostolic.
Catholics call themselves *Apostolics* in their creed.
I went from Catholic to Oneness and I definitely had an experience when I transitioned from one to the other. I knew it was God when I was led to be baptized in Jesus Name.
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i think that scripture applies to who can be saved or not saved. saved people have a unique experience with god as compared to the unsaved. my question is about what is the difference of experience between saved folk, apostolic, trinitarian pentecostals and christian?
Difference may be how they view the Godhead (sometimes not different at all) or baptismal mode... however, the real difference is not between denominations and sects, but those who are"In Christ" and those who are not. That cuts across denominational lines.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Apostolics who have been baptized in Jesus name have their sins washed away. We believe in one God. Is that experience much different than a traditional trinitarian pentecostal or christian? We sing the songs of trinitarian worship leaders, we all pray and feel the presence of God. What makes the apostolic experience unique or any different from a trinitarian pentecostal or christian experience? Do we have any exclusive privileges?
no difference same Holy ghost in a trinitarian church as it is in a apostolic.
same gifts, same working of the Spirit.
people speak with tounges interpret etc. prophecies given. The difference from a trinitarian perspective in most cases not all dont preach water baptism as a heaven or hell issue like apostolics.
other than that some trinitarian churches are set up like the upci and you could sit down in them and would feel just as comfortable as being in a Op church until they baptized some one.
i already had the Holy ghost before i came to the upci.
One thing i did not like about the Upci was when i started attending, i was told that your gonna have to accept that all these other people are not saved. Just realize that and it will help you move on.
However i could never say a person with the workings of the Holy ghost was unsaved, Though i continues in my apostolic doctrine i never viewed trinitarians as unsaved cause they was baptized according to matthew 28:19 verses Jesus name.
However i want to point out i have seen a women get baptized in the titles and then filled with the Spirit while standing there in the water... so God is on both sides of the fence. Same Spirit. Same experiences. Same work of God.... He doesnt look at the labels of trinitarian or apostolic to be honest..
OK, I'm a one-stepper so this is my perspective and three-steppers will not agree.
I believe a person is justified/saved/born again and placed/baptized into the Body of Christ at the moment the person turns to the Lord by faith and accepts Him into his/her life. This salvation or sealing by the Holy Spirit experience may or may not be later followed up with water baptism and with Spirit baptism. Depending on the church tradition the water baptism may be by sprinkling, pouring, trine immersion or single immersion and may have the name of Jesus with or without titles like Lord and/or Christ invoked or may have the more traditional Father, Son, and Holy Ghost formula invoked. And as far as belief about "the godhead" those beliefs vary all over the map from person to person and church to church.
In my opinion, any person who has called upon the name of the Lord is justified/saved/born again and is part of the Body of Christ and is therefore my brother or sister.
I'm not posting this to argue, just to show what I believe the Bible teaches about this. You may or may not agree but if you have committed yourself to Jesus Christ you are my brother or sister and I won't argue with you but will accept you as part of the family of God.
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Apostolic in doctrine
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