The Name - Page 7

freeatlast · #1 03-24-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Joelel - what on earth are you talking about? We ALL use the name Jesus. You must be on too many forums. This is an APOSTOLIC Forum where most everyone uses, preaches, teaches, baptizes, walks and talks - In the Name of Jesus Christ.

Am I right guys or am I on the wrong forum? LOL

Yes , thats right AB

I baptize in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, in case anyone doubted that.

ThePastorsCoach · #2 03-24-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

Yes , thats right AB

I baptize in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, in case anyone doubted that.

Lord have mercy - I am gonna have to straighten another one out!

Don't you know LORD is a title - now you might as well of baptized in the TITLES - F-S- HG as to use that title LORD.
Another one - Doomed to the bad place.
Why can't all of you just believe like ME! I has to be EXACTLY LIKE I SAY IT!

Now - you get in there Sunday morning and preach MY Revelation and re-baptize all them deceived Title of Lord believing people!

freeatlast · #3 03-24-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Lord have mercy - I am gonna have to straighten another one out!

Don't you know LORD is a title - now you might as well of baptized in the TITLES - F-S- HG as to use that title LORD.
Another one - Doomed to the bad place.
Why can't all of you just believe like ME! I has to be EXACTLY LIKE I SAY IT!

Now - you get in there Sunday morning and preach MY Revelation and re-baptize all them deceived Title of Lord believing people!

You are sposed to type TIC when ya say these things AB

Somebody'll take ya serious and threaten to leave the forum

ThePastorsCoach · #4 03-24-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

You are supposed to type TIC when ya say these things AB

Somebody'll take ya serious and threaten to leave the forum

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!! What is TIC? My interpreter is not working today! LOL

SDG · #5 03-24-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Joelel - what on earth are you talking about? We ALL use the name Jesus. You must be on too many forums. This is an APOSTOLIC Forum where most everyone uses, preaches, teaches, baptizes, walks and talks - In the Name of Jesus Christ.

Am I right guys or am I on the wrong forum? LOL

DAT'S RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Praxeas · #6 03-24-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I posted this in another thread and then quickly deleted it. I decided that it would be HUGE departure from topic and it wouldn't be fair to the thread to throw such a boulder into the intended flow.

In the "Be Ye Perfect" thread Michael The Disciple used the term Yeshua.

To which AtlantaBishop replied...

My question...

Now why on earth would you say that?

Names are universal.

When I call the lady at the restaurant up town Juanita should I speak to her in spanish?

Why we use a translation of a translation is a bit of a wonder to me.

Names are generally not translated these days. Apparently they were back then.

But I certainly can't see why one would find themselves incorrect for using a pronunciation that is truer to the original name given.

The name spoken by the angel is nearly (if not exactly) the same as the name of the OT Joshua. Why did they end up sounding so differently? Moses had to stay behind and only Joshua (Y@howshuwa` {yeh-ho-shoo'-ah}) could lead them over into the promised land. Joshua was a type of Christ and shares the same basic name with Christ.

One is now called Joshua (sounding very reminiscent of the original pronunciation although there was no "J" sound back then) and one is now called Jesus (bearing almost no resemblance to the original pronunciation)

And we... the "people of the name" criticize one for trying to utter a pronunciation closest to the name the angel demanded Mary give to the Messiah?

Why would we do that?

Any thoughts?

We live in a different time. Names WERE generally translated in THOSE days. Do you say "Yohan" instead of John when reading the bible? Do you say "Petros" or "Cephas" every time you see Peter?

You have no idea what the angel said...was it Yeshua or was it Yehoshua or was it Yahoshua? What's wrong with Jesus?

Jesus is from the Latin Iesus which is from the Greek Iesous...those are not translations but transliterations. The Entire NT bible is translated from greek, not Aramaic or Hebrew.

ThePastorsCoach · #7 03-24-2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

We live in a different time. Names WERE generally translated in THOSE days. Do you say "Yohan" instead of John when reading the bible? Do you say "Petros" or "Cephas" every time you see Peter?

You have no idea what the angel said...was it Yeshua or was it Yehoshua or was it Yahoshua? What's wrong with Jesus?

Jesus is from the Latin Iesus which is from the Greek Iesous...those are not translations but transliterations. The Entire NT bible is translated from greek, not Aramaic or Hebrew.

Great Post!

SDG · #8 03-24-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

We live in a different time. Names WERE generally translated in THOSE days. Do you say "Yohan" instead of John when reading the bible? Do you say "Petros" or "Cephas" every time you see Peter?

You have no idea what the angel said...was it Yeshua or was it Yehoshua or was it Yahoshua? What's wrong with Jesus?

Jesus is from the Latin Iesus which is from the Greek Iesous...those are not translations but transliterations. The Entire NT bible is translated from greek, not Aramaic or Hebrew.

Just an observation ... many of these extreme individuals who teach these type of ideas as a "revelation" often take satisfaction in being more spiritual than the rest of the body.

In NY, we had a young man who was spreading this "Yeshua" business in the church ... it was also usually accompanied with sharp criticisms of everyone and condemnation.

I remember, here in Houston there were a group of ultraconservative churches headed by some extreme pastors who were killing the rest of the Spanish-speaking fellowship for using the word "Cristo" or Christ.

They believed that those who used the term was were unholy being that Jesus is his name after the resurrection and that the Christ died at Calvary.

It was their new "revelation" that brought huge division and problems to the Spanish work especially here in the Houston area.

Ironically, some of these ministers leading "the revelation" were dealing with other immoral issues.

JMO

SDG · #9 03-24-2007, 05:11 PM

The anti-Cristo churches here in Houston also "sanitized" all "trinitarian" songs that contained the word "Cristo" into "Jesus" .... they were so proud of this ... it was so silly and weird... to hear time-honored songs changed in this manner that it I used to irk me

ThePastorsCoach · #10 03-24-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The anti-Cristo churches here in Houston also "sanitized" all "trinitarian" songs that contained the word "Cristo" into "Jesus" .... they were so proud of this ... it was so silly and weird... to hear time-honored songs changed in this manner that it I used to irk me

You know people just get stranger and stranger when they try to get sooooooooooo super spiritual. I was at Jackson Music Conference when Kieth Clark's then wife - (Juanita I think was her name) announced that We are going to only sing SONGS written by Apostolics and we will have the only Real Apostolic Orchestra in Pentecost! Good Grief I said! Well - she had run off with someone else by the next music conference - still APOSTOLIC but with another husband! CRAZY STUFF!