The Name

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!! What is TIC? My interpreter is not working today! LOL

TIC = Tongue in Cheek as in j/k = just kidding.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

TIC = Tongue in Cheek as in j/k = just kidding.

Got it - I thought I was gonna be lost on a technicality! Thanks!

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Wonder if it was just a technicality when Jesus called for

Lazarus, to come forth. What would have happened if He had

not called a name!! Would all the dead have come forth! He

called one name!!! One man came forth! He identified one man!

Identity!


For GOD (HIS FATHER) hath HIGHLY EXALTED HIM and GIVEN HIM

a (THE) NAME, that at the NAME of JESUS, every knee should bow of

things in heaven and things in earth, and things under the earth; AND

that every tongue should confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, to the

glory of GOD, THE FATHER!!

Sounds like more than a technicality to me!

Blessings,

Falla39

Dear Sis Falla: I am not disageeing with you here. I love everything the name of Jesus represents.

I fear sometimes though that we love the name more then the named.

I sometimes don't type so well..or get my thoughts to come across in the written word.

So sorry to have upset some here today with a "thought" about the name, on a thread entitled "the name"

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Dear Sis Falla: I am not disageeing with you here. I love everything the name of Jesus represents.

I fear sometimes though that we love the name more then the named.

I sometimes don't type so well..or get my thoughts to come across in the written word.

So sorry to have upset some here today with a "thought" about the name, on a thread entitled "the name"

Dear Bro. freeatlast,

I was responding to the thread or "thought" but am not upset although

there are some that evidently are! I love everyone and this has nothing

to do with not loving or being upset. Iron sharpenth iron. These threads

help me to have something to practice on. If we never have opposition,

how will we know if we can stand or not!

I have heard many times through the years, "could or would you stand

up to someone trying to get you to deny Jesus". And I don't believe that

that has anything to do with the thread. I do believe we can use these

posts to sharpen our sword, so to speak. And that's all I am doing!:happydanc

Blessings,

Falla39

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Sis Falla,

God does seem to like being technical and particular, doesn't he?

GOOD POST!

Thank you, Bro. Matt,

I just love to please Him to the best of my ability!!

Makes for a wonderful relationship!! If you really love

someone, you will count it a priviledge to please them.

He loved me first! He loved me from an old rugged cross!

I would do anything for Him!!! If I have any doubts about

what He wants me to do, I just ask Him. He teaches me

from His Word and by His Spirit!! They agree!

Blessings,

Falla39

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I posted this in another thread and then quickly deleted it. I decided that it would be HUGE departure from topic and it wouldn't be fair to the thread to throw such a boulder into the intended flow.

In the "Be Ye Perfect" thread Michael The Disciple used the term Yeshua.

To which AtlantaBishop replied...



My question...

Now why on earth would you say that?

Names are universal.

When I call the lady at the restaurant up town Juanita should I speak to her in spanish?

Why we use a translation of a translation is a bit of a wonder to me.

Names are generally not translated these days. Apparently they were back then.

But I certainly can't see why one would find themselves incorrect for using a pronunciation that is truer to the original name given.

The name spoken by the angel is nearly (if not exactly) the same as the name of the OT Joshua. Why did they end up sounding so differently? Moses had to stay behind and only Joshua (Y@howshuwa` {yeh-ho-shoo'-ah}) could lead them over into the promised land. Joshua was a type of Christ and shares the same basic name with Christ.

One is now called Joshua (sounding very reminiscent of the original pronunciation although there was no "J" sound back then) and one is now called Jesus (bearing almost no resemblance to the original pronunciation)

And we... the "people of the name" criticize one for trying to utter a pronunciation closest to the name the angel demanded Mary give to the Messiah?

Why would we do that?

Any thoughts?

We live in a different time. Names WERE generally translated in THOSE days. Do you say "Yohan" instead of John when reading the bible? Do you say "Petros" or "Cephas" every time you see Peter?

You have no idea what the angel said...was it Yeshua or was it Yehoshua or was it Yahoshua? What's wrong with Jesus?

Jesus is from the Latin Iesus which is from the Greek Iesous...those are not translations but transliterations. The Entire NT bible is translated from greek, not Aramaic or Hebrew.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Are you saying the name of Jesus is a magic name????????????

I think this borders on being a reprobate if that is your feeling my discussion with you on any subject is over.

He didn't say magic name brother AND how would being in doctrinal error make someone a reprobate? You don't know whether this person is reprobate or not. That's just crazy.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

We live in a different time. Names WERE generally translated in THOSE days. Do you say "Yohan" instead of John when reading the bible? Do you say "Petros" or "Cephas" every time you see Peter?

You have no idea what the angel said...was it Yeshua or was it Yehoshua or was it Yahoshua? What's wrong with Jesus?

Jesus is from the Latin Iesus which is from the Greek Iesous...those are not translations but transliterations. The Entire NT bible is translated from greek, not Aramaic or Hebrew.

Great Post!

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

He didn't say magic name brother AND how would being in doctrinal error make someone a reprobate? You don't know whether this person is reprobate or not. That's just crazy.

Acually Prax, he gave the inference to a "magic name" in the post:

They'll disqualify F.S. and H.G. on a technicallity...but give no thought to the fact the the "magic name" was really never spoken over them in baptism.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Acually Prax, he gave the inference to a "magic name" in the post:

Yes, but HE did not say HE believed it was a magic name. He was speaking of THOSE that insist the name has to be spoken in Hebrew if I am not mistaken...even he denied later on insisting that Jesus was a magic name