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Old 02-13-2009, 10:04 AM
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Who Was Melchizedek ?

Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine ;he was the priest of God Most High. And he blessed him and said:
Blessed be Abram of God Most High.
Possessor of heaven and earth;
And blessed be God Most High,
Who has delievered your enemies into your hand.
And he gave him a tithe of all.
GEN.14:18,19,20 NKJV

Who was this Melchizedek? Was He A King Over Salem a contemporary of Abram or was He God in a theophanic form ?
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:59 AM
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Re: Who Was Melchizedek ?

A theophany.
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Old 02-13-2009, 08:15 PM
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Re: Who Was Melchizedek ?

Many OP's consider him a Theophany.

My pastor, F.E. Curts, taught that he was just a man who recognized the one true God as the Most High. Hebrews 7:3 says he was "without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest forever." So there it says he has no descent but then in verse 6 it says he does have a descent but it is not counted. In other words, he did not have the proper pedigree to be a priest just like Jesus did not have the proper pedigree to be a priest.
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Old 02-13-2009, 08:22 PM
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Re: Who Was Melchizedek ?

This is how Melchizedek is taught by one man who happens to be a prominent official in a Oneness Pentecostal organization:


Who did Abraham pay his tithes to?
Was it God or was it man?
In Genesis 14:18-20, Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek. The 7th chapter of
Hebrews tells us that Melchizedek is an “Office”. Hebrews 7:12 tells us it is two
offices combined; first, “High Priest” (King of Righteousness); and the second,
“King of Salem” (Jerusalem) meaning king of peace.
Remember we must have two or three witnesses for verification. 2nd Cor. 13:1
in our Bible, Joshua 10:13 and 2nd Samuel 1:18 tell us of a book called “Jasher”
that is not included in our Bible. Jasher 16:11 tells us that it was Shem that
Abraham paid his tithes to.
Remember that our Bible is not a history book, but it tells us of characters
and events that took place in history. The first Man, Adam was the first
Melchizedek. He was king and also Priest. Today we would call this Church
and state combined (two offices together). There were ten Melchizedeks. The
first Melchizedek was Adam Gen. 5:1-2; the second was Seth Gen. 5:3 and the
third was Enos; Gen. 5:6. The book of Jasher tells us throughout the day of
Enos, men began to depart from God and began making images to worship. The
4th Melchizedek was Cainan; Gen. 5:9 and through him God spoke first of
destroying the world by water (flood). The 5th Melchizedek was Mahalaleel;
Gen. 5:12 and the 6th was Jared; Gen. 5:15. In the book of Jude, verse 14 tells
us of the 7th Melchizedek who was Enoch, the 7th from Adam; Gen. 5:18. Enoch
was translated because he had a testimony that pleased God, he warned the
people that not only the good but the bad would live again; Hebrews 9:27. The
8th Melchizedek was Noah Gen. 5:29, 2nd Peter2:5 Methuselah lived and
prophesied in the days of Noah. The 9th Melchizedek was Shem, Noah’s son.

The office of Melchizedek was handed down from father to his eldest son.
Genesis 11:11 tells us that Shem lived five hundred years after the flood and in
the book of Jasher 16:11it says that the man or “Melchizedek” that Abraham
paid tithes to was Shem
There was not another Melchizedek until Jesus came Hebrews 7:17. The
tenth and last Melchizedek is Jesus Christ; he is our King and High Priest.
According to Hebrews 7:3, he is without father, without mother, without
decent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life. Hebrews 12 tells us
that we have now come unto Mount Zion, the Heavenly Jerusalem. This was
this was prophesied of Him in Gen. 49:10, Psalms 10:4, Isaiah 2:2 and
Hebrews 7:17. From the loins of Abraham, God through the Patriarchs,
separated the priesthood from the Kingship. He took the Priests from the tribe
of Levi and the Kings from the tribe of Judah, again referring to Hebrews 7:3
Melchizedek (office).
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Re: Who Was Melchizedek ?

I think he's my crazy uncle on my Mom's side. You know, the one that talks to himself and smells like moth balls.
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I think he's my crazy uncle on my Mom's side. You know, the one that talks to himself and smells like moth balls.
A little known fact: Melchizedek was really a retired insurance broker named Joe Sliberman from Patterson, NJ. He wanted to make a once in a life time visit to the Holy Land after he retired but his luggage was lost on a connecting flight in Milan.

Dispossessed of all his earthly goods he turns up at Ben Gurion airport clad only in a fluffy terry cloth robe from the Milano Holiday Inn. Customs officials asked him if he was "making Aliya...?"

Turns out old Joe never paid much attention to his Hebrew lessons at Temple when he was a kid and thought that he had been accused of having a relationship with R&B singing sensation Aaliya.

In the ensuring brawl Joe lost his terry cloth robe but was eventually elevated to the role of "King of Salem" by a local Lubavitcher sect whose rabbi was also from Patterson. True story.
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A little known fact: Melchizedek was really a retired insurance broker named Joe Sliberman from Patterson, NJ. He wanted to make a once in a life time visit to the Holy Land after he retired but his luggage was lost on a connecting flight in Milan.

Dispossessed of all his earthly goods he turns up at Ben Gurion airport clad only in a fluffy terry cloth robe from the Milano Holiday Inn. Customs officials asked him if he was "making Aliya...?"

Turns out old Joe never paid much attention to his Hebrew lessons at Temple when he was a kid and thought that he had been accused of having a relationship with R&B singing sensation Aaliya.

In the ensuring brawl Joe lost his terry cloth robe but was eventually elevated to the role of "King of Salem" by a local Lubavitcher sect whose rabbi was also from Patterson. True story.
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Surely you can do better than that, Timmy.
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Surely you can do better than that, Timmy.
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OK, how about
Not what I meant!

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