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Old 05-11-2009, 03:06 PM
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Re: cut the corners of their hair

Okay, here's one source I found:


Here are two commandments about how to cut your hair:

Leviticus 19:27. Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.

Deuteronomy 14:1. Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead.

The pagan priests would trim the corners of their heads and their beards, much like monks have done. You'll note, however, that almost everyone has a ridge on their head where the frontal and parietal bones join. This is the ridge whose highest point is at or near the "crown". And what do pagan priests do? They shave the hair off the crown, creating what has been termed a tonsure (Figure 1). Some who prefer to keep their heads mostly bald (or have trouble growing hair) may opt for wearing a thin ring of hair around their heads, called a "monastic crown" (Figures 2 and 3).



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The tonsure was a pagan practice because by it, they showed obedience to the sun god! Note what Alexander Hislop in his "The Two Babylons" Chapter 6, Section 2, writes (my emphasis is in bold):

Now, as Rome set so much importance on this tonsure, let it be asked what was the meaning of it? It was the visible inauguration of those who submitted to it as the priests of Bacchus. This tonsure cannot have the slightest pretence to Christian authority. It was indeed the "tonsure of Peter," but not of the Peter of Galilee, but of the Chaldean "Peter" of the Mysteries. He was a tonsured priest, for so was the god whose Mysteries he revealed. Centuries before the Christian era, thus spoke Herodotus of the Babylonian tonsure: "The Arabians acknowledge no other gods than Bacchus and Urania [i.e., the Queen of Heaven], and they say that their hair was cut in the same manner as Bacchus' is cut; now, they cut it in a circular form, shaving it around the temples."

Maimonides adds (Book 3, Chapter 37): "We have explained in our large work that it is prohibited to round the corners of the head, and to mar the corners of the beard, because it was the custom of idolatrous priests."

So the practice of trimming the corners of the head and beard are actually pagan practices and should not be practiced as such.
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Okay, here's one source I found:


Here are two commandments about how to cut your hair:

Leviticus 19:27. Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.

Deuteronomy 14:1. Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead.

The pagan priests would trim the corners of their heads and their beards, much like monks have done. You'll note, however, that almost everyone has a ridge on their head where the frontal and parietal bones join. This is the ridge whose highest point is at or near the "crown". And what do pagan priests do? They shave the hair off the crown, creating what has been termed a tonsure (Figure 1). Some who prefer to keep their heads mostly bald (or have trouble growing hair) may opt for wearing a thin ring of hair around their heads, called a "monastic crown" (Figures 2 and 3).



Figure 1.
Figure 2.
Figure 3.


The tonsure was a pagan practice because by it, they showed obedience to the sun god! Note what Alexander Hislop in his "The Two Babylons" Chapter 6, Section 2, writes (my emphasis is in bold):

Now, as Rome set so much importance on this tonsure, let it be asked what was the meaning of it? It was the visible inauguration of those who submitted to it as the priests of Bacchus. This tonsure cannot have the slightest pretence to Christian authority. It was indeed the "tonsure of Peter," but not of the Peter of Galilee, but of the Chaldean "Peter" of the Mysteries. He was a tonsured priest, for so was the god whose Mysteries he revealed. Centuries before the Christian era, thus spoke Herodotus of the Babylonian tonsure: "The Arabians acknowledge no other gods than Bacchus and Urania [i.e., the Queen of Heaven], and they say that their hair was cut in the same manner as Bacchus' is cut; now, they cut it in a circular form, shaving it around the temples."

Maimonides adds (Book 3, Chapter 37): "We have explained in our large work that it is prohibited to round the corners of the head, and to mar the corners of the beard, because it was the custom of idolatrous priests."

So the practice of trimming the corners of the head and beard are actually pagan practices and should not be practiced as such.

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Jer 9:26 That is, I will punish the Egyptians, the Judeans, the Edomites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, and all the desert people who cut their hair short at the temples. I will do so because none of the people of those nations are really circumcised in the Lord's sight. Moreover, none of the people of Israel are circumcised when it comes to their hearts, either."

NET Heb "all those who are cut off on the side of the head who live in the desert." KJV and some other older translations have followed the interpretation that this is a biform of an expression meaning "end or remote parts of the [far] corners [of the earth]." This interpretation is generally abandoned by the modern commentaries and lexicons (see, e.g. BDB 802 s.פֵּאָה 1 and HAL 858 s.פֵּאָה 1.β)

Gill The Arabians used to shave the extreme hairs of the head round about, as the forehead, temples, and behind the ears, which are the corners of the head; so Herodotus (i) reports of them, who seem to be meant here; though some think the Jews are intended, to whom this was forbidden, Lev_19:27,

Barnes All that are in the utmost corners - Really, all who have the corners of their hair shorn. The people meant are those Arabs who cut the hair close upon the forehead and temples, but let it grow long behind. See Lev_19:27.
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What does this mean? Some kind of pagan practice?


# Jeremiah 9:26
Egypt, Judah, Edom, the sons of Ammon, Moab, and all who dwell in the desert who cut the corners of their hair, for all these nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are uncircumcised in heart."

# Jeremiah 25:23
Dedan, Tema, Buz, and all who cut the corners of their hair;

# Jeremiah 49:32
Their camels shall become plunder,their herds of livestock a spoil. I will scatter to every wind those who cut the corners of their hair,and I will bring their calamity from every side of them,declares the LORD.
I believe this is the part in which God forbid what you would consider a Fu Manchu per Jewish law. cutting the corner had to do with style.
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Following a Biblical commandment not to shave the sides of one's face, male members of most Hasidic groups wear long, uncut sideburns called payot (Ashkenazi Hebrew peyos, Yiddish peyes). Many Hasidim shave off the rest of their hair. Not every Hasidic group requires long peyos, and not all Jewish men with peyos are Hasidic, but all groups discourage the shaving of one's beard. Hasidic boys receive their first haircuts ceremonially at the age of three years (though Skverrer Hasidim do this at their second birthday). Until then, Hasidic boys have long hair. Many non-Hasidic (and even some non-Orthodox) Jews have adopted this custom.
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I am thankful that I am not under the law of moses and that it was deemed unnecessary by the Apostles to put more on us then to not eat foods that were sacrificed to false god's, not to eat blood, and not to eat meats from animals that were strangled.


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I am thankful that I am not under the law of moses and that it was deemed unnecessary by the Apostles to put more on us then to not eat foods that were sacrificed to false god's, not to eat blood, and not to eat meats from animals that were strangled.


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I am thankful that I am not under the law of moses and that it was deemed unnecessary by the Apostles to put more on us then to not eat foods that were sacrificed to false god's, not to eat blood, and not to eat meats from animals that were strangled.


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Talk about destroying scripture and denying the whole for a jot. sheesh
LOL! You are dead on Luke!
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