Salvation: easy or hard? - Page 3

Timmy · #21 05-11-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I doubt Timmy is an atheist.

No, but he's right: atheists don't care about salvation!

allstate1 · #22 05-11-2010, 08:48 AM

Salvation is FREE!!!!!!!!!

TheLegalist · #23 05-11-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by vrblackwell

We became sinners by being born into the natural world. We become clean by being reborn into the spiritual. Of course there are things we do, but not to the extent that many say. But it is not our works that save us, it is our faith in the work that Christ has done.

Nope! Original Sin is a lie and we are not sinners UNTIL WE SIN! Show me in the garden that curse of total depravity and sin nature imputed.

Oh and by the way nice way to ignore the words of our savior. IT IS HARD to enter for the way is narrow.

Mat 7:13 "Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.
Mat 7:14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

Luk 13:23 Someone78 asked79 him, "Lord, will only a few80 be saved?" So81 he said to them,
Luk 13:24 "Exert every effort(agonize) to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.

TheLegalist · #24 05-11-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by allstate1

Salvation is FREE!!!!!!!!!

Salvation comes at a cost and is purchased!

allstate1 · #25 05-11-2010, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLegalist

Salvation comes at a cost and is purchased!

Not for us!!

Timmy · #26 05-11-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLegalist

Nope! Original Sin is a lie and we are not sinners UNTIL WE SIN! Show me in the garden that curse of total depravity and sin nature imputed.

Oh and by the way nice way to ignore the words of our savior. IT IS HARD to enter for the way is narrow.

Mat 7:13 "Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.
Mat 7:14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

Luk 13:23 Someone78 asked79 him, "Lord, will only a few80 be saved?" So81 he said to them,
Luk 13:24 "Exert every effort(agonize) to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.

Thanks. And I guess this is why we are advised to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling! It's hard, and with so many things could go wrong, the odds are against us. Even many who think they got it right, won't. "Lord, Lord, didn't we...?"

allstate1 · #27 05-11-2010, 08:57 AM

HMM!! let me recall.............. Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom to Peter, who was asked in Acts, what must we do to be saved? And Peter said........

allstate1 · #28 05-11-2010, 09:07 AM

I think what some are considering hard is overcoming our sinful nature!!! I dont know about the original sin theory but the Bible does say somewhere that ALL have sinned and come short of the glory!!!