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Amazing that this interpretation is nonexistent. But for the sake of argument I won't disagree with you. Which leads me to the obvious question: what in the heck does that mean? Jesus was telling him he'd be in a GARDEN after he died? What's that??? Is this like a nicer purgatory?
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Thank you. Since you don't know what the "heck" that means then you haven't the slightest idea what Jesus meant when He made the comment. Bible school did nothing for you, your experience in Pentecost was a flash of white light, and sadly you are now the sorriest rendition of a Baptist. Contemplate that, on the Tree of Woe.
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Whatever. I read what I read, the author reported he confessed his sins.
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Then you should of gone a little further than your Roman Catholic author and checked out some unbiased sources. Ragamuffin Gospel? How utterly putrid.
But our friend Michael the Disciple found an article which you should of taken the time to peruse. It gave a good play by play. Rock's caretaker boyfriend call the priest, the priest came, made a decision to administer the sanctified cracker, and give LAST RIGHTS. Finito! He confessed his sins? What in tarnation is that??? Sorry, but the Bible doesn't prescribe such foolishness, and pass it off as the Gospel. DB you read things with a skewed view. Waterboard and Manna???
Good God from Zion!!!
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My God is mysterious, the Bible reveals Him to be so.
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No doubt, your god has to be, in order for YOU to fill in all the blanks.
The workers who came last paid with the same wage, were the remnant of Israel, and the Gentiles. Not sexual deviants who bypassed God's mercy, to play Him as a first rate chump at the last minute.
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We certainly can understand things about Him, but who can know the mind of the Lord?
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Bro, it isn't about knowing whats on His mind, but He gave us all the information concerning soteriology. This is why sinners just can't deal with the change every second Christianity. It is as consistent as the Weather Channel.
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His ways are past finding out.
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Bro, taking verses out of their context never works for anyone. Unless you are dealing with a frustrated soccer mom going through a bad divorce. Dude, Jesus is the revelation, the revealing of the plan of God for Judea, and the remnant of Israel, to all the nations. God made it plan through His Word in the Body of Christ. So sorry that your experience was nothing more than a flash of white light filled with white noise on full blast.
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As far as the heavens are above the earth are His ways above our ways and His thoughts above our thoughts.
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DB, you are setting up a scenario which leads into a ditch. You are building a case for a Gnostic deity which you can never understand what He wants from you. Therefore you are covered in bandages awaiting your own death where you are finally perfected? The death, burial, and resurrection wasn't enough, but your own death brings salvation? Hinduism 101
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We can know much as followers of Christ. Judging whether a man truly repented or not, not being present at that moment, reading only conflicting reports, is really something none of us can know for sure. So yes, GOD ONLY KNOWS.
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Yes, God does know, therefore He relayed it through His teachers, prophets, and Body. While you are trying to be nicer than Jesus with your bypassing of the Gospel to build yourself a tower to out do God's plan of salvation. You lose everything. If the blind lead the blind they BOTH fall into a ditch. DB, tie your shoelaces.
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
Until you understand the grossness of your own sinfulness and guilt, you'll always be blind to Biblical grace. As long as you see other follow sinners as worse than you, as long as your attitude is "at least I haven't done ______" like this man or that man (see Luke 18:9-14)" then you won't believe that a person in their last moments can be saved. EB Jesus was killed for your sins and Hitler's and Dahmer's and the most notorious of sinners. The guilt is universal.
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Sorry, but that doesn't float. Walking around in sack cloth and ashes isn't going to make you better than anyone. But knowing how to help them get out of the sackcloth and into the joy of the Lord through the Holy Ghost is what they are looking for!!!!! You know, allow me to point out how bipolar your beliefs are. You want to waterboard people, but you talk about God's grace? You want to arm yourself to kill your enemy, but talk about God's grace? Bro, look around you! All of the sinners who just shake their heads when they hear that sort of psychobabble.
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Not conditions. Reality. My God can and will save anyone who believes. Even someone on their deathbed. If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
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The God of the Bible laid out a plan, don't follow the plan, then you trample the blood He laid out for you to wear. Sorry, but your pseudo water weak Baptist mantras are failing this country and her prisons. Sorry, bro they just didn't work.
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Of course. But someone moments from death won't have any more opportunities to show the world the change. Except maybe some remaining courage as they face mortality. Maybe a chance to tell a nurse about the peace they have made with God. Maybe a chance to let His light shine to some unbelieving kin folks who are by their side.
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Well, that maybe the stories of saints of God as they are dying, but not Mr Hudson.
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The Gentiles had to PROVE THEY WERE WORTHY??? Dude---NOBODY IS WORTHY!!!
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Bro, try reading a Bible sometimes instead of snippets. DB, they came to Jesus, Jesus wasn't there for THEM. He tells the Syrophoenician woman that she was a pesky little dog, but when she showed HER FAITH He responded.
Man, religion gave you are brutal shark attack.
So, you are on an Apostolic forum to do what?
To preach about waterboarding, hatred for Muslims, and tell everyone about your liberty from the Apostolic movement to Jail House Jesus Grace?