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Originally Posted by deacon blues
Of course we are to stop sinning! How you extract that I believe a Christian should continue in sin is silly.
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No, it isn't silly. Because you claim the sermon on the mount has nothing to do with the followers of Jesus. That Jesus was subtly pointing to Himself? I know there is strange stuff taught in Non-Denominational (the title is an oxymoron) but this one is new? At least to me.
Yet, if you honestly believe that Jesus was indirectly pointing to Himself because NO ONE could become mature in Christ. Then you really don't believe that someone could get out of the sinning business. They always remain a neophyte, a babe, always drinking milk, and never eating strong meat.
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
Jesus was saying if you're going to work your way to salvation---perfection is the only way. Jesus was subtly pointing to Himself. He earlier said that He did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. He was going to obey every commandment, every statute, every law of the OT, living a life of perfection. In fact, the whole Sermon on the Mount ultimately was about Jesus. Jesus is everything personified in Matthew 5-7.
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DB, is this you not wording your post correctly again???
Bro, how do you expect to prove anything when you make such statements.
Jesus subtly pointing to Himself?
Matthew 5:2 starts off that Jesus is primarily teaching the Judeans.
But I notice you don't start with verses
Matthew 5:3 and
Matthew 5:4 was it because verse 3 is dealing with those who are weak in spirit, so therefore it couldn't possibly be Jesus? 4, because it deals with those lamenting being comforted? Jesus mourned in the garden, and angels ministered to Him. So, maybe you will revise your teaching to verse 4?
Matthew 5:6, I could see the inherit the earth in verse 5, but Jesus was hungering to be righteous? Isn't that the same as
1 John 3:7, dear children, don't let anyone deceive you about this: when people do what is right, it shows that they are righteous, even as Christ is righteous. Wasn't that what Jesus was talking about in
Matthew 5:6?
Matthew 5:7 Isn't Jesus telling the Judeans as well as us to be merciful?
OK, you stop at 7, but let's continue on. Shall we?
Matthew 5:8 so Jesus was to keep a pure mind so He would see God? Hey, you stopped at verse 7, so I would gather that verse 8 is for the saint? So Jesus admonishes them to keep their mind's pure. In
Titus 1:15 we are reminded of purity of mind.
Matthew 5:9 those who make peace are the children of God! So, that would totally do away with waterboarding, cruel and unusual interrogations.
Matthew 5:10-11 speaks of those who will be persecuted because of doing righteousness! Awesome!