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Re: We have to Be perfect in order to make heaven
Hmmm... I notice no responses about this LITMUS TEST:
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Amen. I find it interesting to see the betraying factors that reveal a legalist. For example, the view of how the old testament saints are saved. Did the cross need to occur for them to be saved or not? If the cross is the centre of the spiritual universe as I claim it is, then YES the Old Testament saints would never enjoy glory had not the cross later occurred. So this is a litmus test to present to a person to determine legalism.
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And also this:
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Originally Posted by mfblume
I think I know part of the reason people reject true and genuine grace without works. They do not believe Jesus actually died AS US, which is what FOR US actually means. God considers US DEAD when Christ died. Just as though we were on that cross ourselves. It would be interesting to see if co-death with Christ is just a pretend story to encourage us in the minds of those who promote works as much as they do, or if they really believe GOD SAW US ON THE CROSS DYING.
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...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Last edited by mfblume; 04-16-2011 at 09:21 AM.
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