Come Out Of Her My People

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The question is silly. But let's follow the silliness to it's conclusion. Here's a question for YOU: Since you affirm not only that Jesus is with the single, solitary individual, then why does Jesus need to say He is there in the midst of two or three?

SMH Because He is speaking in reference to Deuteronomy 19, and verses 15-18 in this chapter. The whole foundation of verses 19-22 are verses 15-18 -- and the root of verses 15-18 can be found in Deuteronomy 19.

Originally Posted by Esaias

Jesus did not say nor did He mean 'my words about two or three being gathered together do not apply anywhere else or at any other time, other than when dealing with a brother who sins.'

Now you're adding to the verse and making assumptions to try and prove a point. I could as easily say, He didn't say it was about anything other than the subject He was currently discussing - verses 15-18.

Originally Posted by Esaias

Notice THE CONTEXT of the TEXT:

18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

See that little word 'for'? It means BECAUSE. Whatever is loosed or bound on earth is loosed or bound in heaven. Not because there were two or three witnesses. But because JESUS IS IN THE MIDST of those gathered in His name, even if it is as small a number as two or three.

1) You're going off the point, which was this verse was used to try and say as long as 2 or 3 are gathered together, God is here. It's not what the verse is about. A lot of preachers use the verse as an excuse for when attendance is down, but it's not correct.
2) You ignore verses 15-18, which is the foundation of the context. I could pick a verse or two out of a series of verses on a subject and make them what I want. It doesn't mean it's correct or in context.
3) Why would Jesus mention 2 or 3 if He's not referring to verses 15-18? It's odd that He would just make up this arbitrary number, which coincidentally is the same number as He mentioned in the verses previous, as a means of saying how many He would be in the midst of.