Is the Bible all you need for your morality?

[J.A. Perez]

Neither does your quote have any biblical basis in the NT either: "You also need a Man of God (a pastor) to show you. That's in the bible."[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

In your original post, you equated a "man of God" to a pastor. This is where your premise is wrong. The eunuch on his way to Jerusalem was sent someone who was part of the 5-fold ministry - Philip who was an evangelist - and NOT a pastor. Peter went to Cornelius as an evangelist, and NOT a pastor.

The term you are using "man of God" does not equate "pastor" ANYWHERE in the NT. Prove it with scripture if it does.

Neither does your quote have any biblical basis in the NT either: "You also need a Man of God (a pastor) to show you. That's in the bible."

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I too am wondering where you are finding the type and shadow of the OT "man of God" that is specifically referenced in the NT as being a fulfillment of the NT ministry.

Nowhere in the OT do I see the prophet Isaiah, Jeremiah, or any of the rest of them, ruling over a group of people, taking their "tithe", and telling them how to live, and making sure they come to their church every Sunday. How is the OT prophet an extension of the NT ministry?

Simple answer - it's not. Jesus is our High Priest, and he is the Head of the body of Christ, the church. Those who minister in the body are not elevated above other parts of the body, but they are able to provide support, and help to encourage, strengthen, and help the body function together as a body. Nowhere in Paul's illustrations about the ministry do we see any man being given a role that would allow him to be a dictator over any part of the body of Christ.

Ministry is servanthood in the simplest way of explaining it. Study out the word minister, or ministry sincerely and be honest with yourself in the results you find.

What you have believed all along about the ministry has been taught to you by your "man of God' and it most likely has simply been a twist of scriptures to prop up their ministry and their kingdom building, and not the kingdom God.

I apologize I did not take the time to qualify what I was typing. I do believe in the 5 fold ministry as individual offices that Men of God have held and today are called.
I was only describing the ministry of the Pastor in my local assembly as God uses him at various times.

It is similar to your example of the APOSTLE Peter worked in the spirit of an evangelist with Cornelius. Though called as an Apostle was also anointed to work in this occasian as an Evangelist.

Phoenix: I hope this answers your questions.
nDavid: Elder R. Garrett is close enough to Phoenix. Have you been? He is truely a Man of God!

Sincerely,
J.A. Perez