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Originally Posted by Adino
True, God alone would know the condition of a man's heart. Only those who confessed Christ were to be baptized. To the church at large confession of faith was the only thing they had to go on to justify baptism. Whether Judas was a true believer any time prior to the betrayal is left to God. Did Judas betray in a time of weakness? When was his mind made up? I dunno. That he would betray was known only to Christ who gave him sop and not to the others, so there was certainly a feigned belief if nothing else. That Judas was a believer when he took his own life seems clear.
Bottom line, Christ first made disciples and those who were considered true believing disciples were THEN baptized.
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Well I agree actually...you don't baptized unbelievers. You don't suddenly become a believer by being baptized. You only baptize believers. That though alone dose not argue against a three stepper viewpoint other than it might put a monkey wrench in the notion that sins are not remitted till baptism.
I see a distinction between justification, sanctification, regeneration etc etc I don't think they automatically all happen at the same time either....they can, but they are distinct. A person is justified by faith alone.
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