Originally Posted by TRFrance
Nowhere to run? I have nothing to run from. You're the one running to the "church fathers" for help on this since you cant find even a shred of scripture to lean on. Your unwillingness to quote even one verse of scripture is an acknowledgement in a sense, that the scriptures dont back you on this.
Come on Luke. You're no dummy.
This here reflects one of the essential principles of logic, reason, and debate:
If I say I dont believe we should cosmetics is a sin... and you say it IS a sin... then the onus is on YOU to show biblically that it is a sin. And you have ZERO biblical support for your position... we both know that. You havent even quoted a single verse.
My decision to allow people liberty under God to exercise personal preference in this matter (since I dont see that scriputure, or "scriptural principle condemns it) does not need for me to find scripture to back me up.The one pointing the finger at his brother/sister is the one who needs to find scripture regarding what he's condemning.
Similarly, I might not like Mohawk haircuts... but if a kid in my church shows up with a Mohawk I'm not going to condemn him. However, if I found scripture (or scriptural priciple) regarding such a haircut. On the other hand, in my view, when people just dont like something, but choose to impose their personal pereferences on those issues and present it as doctrine, they're just placing unnecessary burdens on people that they know they really cant justify with scripture. I dont like big bright Easter hats, but I dont think I'd want my pastor to preach against big bright Easter hats just because he doesnt like them. After all, maybe the Lord doesnt have a problem with big bright easter hats. Just because I dont like something, doesnt mean the Lord has a problem with it.
That's why we have such wide variation in "standards" even among conservative Apostolic churches around the country. Our own pastors cant even agree on what to ban and what to allow when it comes to this stuff (even though they all will end up claiming "biblical principle" for whatever they choose to preach/teach against)... In the end, a lot of it comes down to "house rules", or "pastor's preference", which I have no problem with if it's taught as being just thats. Unfortunately, too many of our churches try to present it as "doctrine", (especially doctrine with salvational ramifications), and I think that's unfortunate, to say the least.
If you want to have a personal conviction regarding cosmetics, fine. But I'm not sure God wants you going around trying to impose your conviction on others, especially when you have nothing in his Word to support your position.
Blessings,
TRF
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