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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Of value, yes.
For the purpose of justification and righteousness, no.
BTW... you don't see the Jews having a separate way into heaven outside of Messiah do you?
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seriously you go off on tangents...
justification..... God judges your reponse "just" THAT IS IT! When you come before him to offer yourself in covenant/offering your heart must be "considered/reckoned" JUST to obtain citizenship in Christ. Thus if he asks you to be baptized to enter covenant which is to take upon Christ death unto newness of life which a covenant brings.... is that a work like God asked Abraham in
Gen 15 to...
Gen 15:9 He said to him, "Bring me a heifer three years old, a female goat three years old, a ram three years old, a turtledove, and a young pigeon."
is that works of ourselves?