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Originally Posted by mfblume
Brethren, explain these passages:
Colossians 2:11-12 KJV In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: (12) Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Acts 22:16 KJV And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Romans 6:3-4 KJV Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? (4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
1 Peter 3:21 KJV The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Good for starters.
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Mike they can't! The whole issue at hand is they have a paradigm of justificaton that makes the bible a total contradiction. Thus you get the war of faith vs baptism, faith vs works, gospel and law. It's the same old worn out issue that they cannot get past. We can accept faith for what it is and we see it as a whole. They have to skew and totaly distort clear scriptures on baptism. As works have to be misused and abused to fit the rest of scripture and whole lot of lumping has to go on. "works" don't justify.... they yell. Yet they fail to realize justification is more than just about atonement. The framework of covenant is clearly shown by Abraham and he didn't come into covenant to obtain by simply believing something was true with agreement at one point in time and everything was given to him. sorry didn't happen and still won't. god accounted his response as righteous. That is ALL
Gen 15:6 is. It's not directly about salvation though it shows the most basic conecept of how God's jsutice works. That God responds to our response and considers/judges it just or not. Just as we do daily. Thus the context is ALL DETERMINING of whether God declares a just response or not.