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Originally Posted by mfblume
I can only say what the scriptures say. So long as we walk after the Spirit, we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. And that is possible to maintain. Sin is still in our flesh, but we keep it under within our bodies, and we overcome its influence by the Spirit's empowerment. I never saw a calvinist who looked at it this way.
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You've never met one then.
That's probably John Piper verbatim.
One thing I've noticed on this post so far, is the attitude that sin is only sin until it's become an action. That's not the standard Jesus drew up. For example, he told the man who never cheated on his wife he was still an adulterer by looking on another woman. At the playing field of action, many of us are still guilty, but the Pharisees thought they had that one down. However, Jesus informed them that it was their heart that was full of sin. They had the moral laws down, but their hearts were distant from God and filled with pride.
At the heart level, I realize I'm still a sinner --- a sinner, overcoming by the Spirit, learning how to walk in God's grace and not my own record, and one growing until the day we are glorified. But perfect we are far from. It seems Pennies don't feel that way (in my experience). If they do admit we are sinners, it's viewed in terms of moralism, and not what sin is really about.
How many times a day to I fail to trust God? Get anxious not believing He is in control? Become worried about other's opinion not believing He is most glorious? A hateful thought about the annoying person next to me (not showing love -- one of his greatest commandments). Lustful thoughts and looks? Selfishness? Yeah... knowing my heart, this is WHY I strive to live a life 'in the Spirit,' in response to Grace, etc...