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Old 08-08-2017, 04:16 AM
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Re: Help! Tormented dreams

Aquila,

About the "low-vibrational trauma" thing from the list you shared.

1.) Yes, I intend to keep bringing this up.

2.) It's not the only questionable item on the list, but it's certainly the one most worth noting.

Here's why:

On page 10, post #94, you claimed the following:

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There is third possibility, which is the truth. As I stated I was only involved in deliverance ministry for over a year, almost two years. When I left I asked for a list of indicators of oppression. I also asked for a copy of the questionnaire that is often given. What he emailed me was this list and he wished me well and encouraged me to sick with Christ. His email didn't include the questionnaire, but I thought it was no big deal because I wasn't involved any more. So I briefly looked it over and then saved this list to Word and I've had it on a disc since then. Until now, I've assumed it was the list I remember used in conjunction with the questionnaire. Maybe it's not.
This list, you received from this Matt Burris fellow. You have stated more than once that this Matt Burris was the deliverance ministry leader. This leader clearly considers low-vibrational trauma in the human body to be a true sign of demonic oppression. But low-vibration trauma in the human body is a diagnosis made by shamanistic energy healing psychotherapists, so, where did this Matt Burris get the idea in his head that low-vibrational trauma in the human body is a sign of demonic oppression, if not from the very people who are actively involved in summoning and channeling demons as part of their approach to "energy healing"?

How does the leader of a ministry truck with that? Claiming ignorance disqualifies him from leadership. It's also a de facto confession of hypocrisy. If he, like you, didn't know what low-vibrational trauma is, but still put it on his list, then by not knowing what it is and where it comes from, he is admitting that he is propagating information about which he has no knowledge. That is more than cause for concern. That is dangerous stuff.

On the other hand, if he knows what low-vibrational trauma is and where it comes from, it's a de facto confession that he travels and trades in aspects of pagan demonology as part and parcel of his supposed deliverance ministry.

Either way you slice it, it's wrong. Google "energy healing" and then tell me that what it's supposed to cure belongs on that list? Tell me it's okay for a deliverance ministry leader to recommend low-vibrational trauma in the human body as a symptom of demonic oppression.

Playing this off as no big deal demonstrates a complete lack of concern regarding how one ministers to someone who is actually being demonized.

The ministry of the Kingdom of God is SUPPOSED to be without reproach. The ministry of the Kingdom of God is SUPPOSED to not be blamed for wrongdoing. Those who oversee ministries are SUPPOSED to be blameless, too.

It's this kind of thing that continually brings reproach and blame and makes true ministers of the Gospel of Peace look like charlatans because wolves in sheep's clothing continually make the rest of us look bad.

It has got to stop. Not calling it like it is is the same as having "dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber" (Isaiah 56:10).

Aquila, if you are still in contact with Matt Burris, I challenge you to call him up and ask him about low-vibrational trauma in the human body and how he came to believe it's an indicator of demonic oppression. Then come back here and report.
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