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Originally Posted by Praxeas
A disciple is not necessarily a believer though. Judas was a disciple.
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True, God alone would know the condition of a man's heart. Only those who confessed Christ were to be baptized. To the church at large confession of faith was the only thing they had to go on to justify baptism. Whether Judas was a true believer any time prior to the betrayal is left to God. Did Judas betray in a time of weakness? When was his mind made up? I dunno. That he would betray was known only to Christ who gave him sop and not to the others, so there was certainly a feigned belief if nothing else. That Judas was a believer when he took his own life seems clear.
Bottom line, Christ first made disciples and those who were considered true believing disciples were THEN baptized.