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Originally Posted by mfblume
Pel and n.o.w.,
How can I believe in salvation by works if I claimed this? If a person repented and agreed to be baptized, having the faith that works, and died before getting baptized, THEY ARE SAVED. If the person DID NOT DIE and DOES NOT GET BAPTIZED, they are not saved. They did not have the OBEDIENT HEART of FAITH THAT WORKS. It is the HEART INTENT that shows God if the person has FAITH THAT WORKS. And since God saw the heart fully ready to obey, that shows the "faith that works" was indeed present in such a life.
And let me give another scenario. I always leave these things up to God and leave Him to judge the issue when dealing with gray areas that the Word does not talk about, but my best educated guess would be that if someone never had anyone tell them about baptism, and truly learned of Jesus and the true concept of how the work of the cross saves, and genuinely repented, not getting baptized (totally due to lack of awareness of it), God knows if their heart WOULD GET BAPTIZED SHOULD THEY LEARN OF IT, they are saved if they have the heart to indeed get baptized had they learned of it. |
Like I said Mike, I really haven't "hung a tag on you." Like DKB, you back up and take a run at the topic of salvation making certain to touch bases at the cross. I respect that.
There are others however, who just jump right in with a list of "you gotta do's" and who make granny's knickers a matter of salvation. They are the ones who at least appear to have forgotten about the cross. And when the cross and salvation by grace through faith is brought up they have the predictable knee jerk reactions.
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