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Old 01-10-2012, 10:09 AM
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Re: What Must I Do To Be Saved?

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You're Apostolic, to me if you preach the necessity of Repentance, Water Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ, and the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with tongues following as evidence. Standards have far less to do with it.

If you have done all three but don't believe they're necessary I'd still say you're saved (not Apostolic because you don't hold to the doctrine), just misguided and you need to go back to the altar and as the old PAW church mothers used to say "go on down and get you some of that conviction".
I would you're not Apostolic because you're promoting Ron Paul.
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:17 AM
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Re: What Must I Do To Be Saved?

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No, but there is scripture regarding modest dress and gender identity. Therefore such issues should indeed be deemed important scripturally. The Holy Spirit directs us and guides us two main ways individually and collectively. Pastors are directed by the Holy Spirit to teach and guide by example their members. Standards can therefore be set by the pastors as long as there is biblical reasoning behind them, and as long as those standards don't replace the plan of salvation. Those under that pastor are to be obedient out of love and out of a desire to serve God.

Anyway... dressing "holy" really has nothing to do with holiness.

HOWEVER!!!!! How you dress is a representation of a.) your God, b.) your church, c.) yourself. And yes it does have an impact on the Kingdom of God.
Ok, but I see how "have no thought to what you will wear" is really saying "don't worry about not having nice clothes," and can possibly be overstretched here, in light of the scriptures directing "proper" attire; so I'll say that I agree with

"Anyway... dressing "holy" really has nothing to do with holiness.

HOWEVER!!!!! How you dress is a representation of...c.) yourself..."

too, and rather than agree with you in a raised voice, I'd like to just say that clothing should never even come up, as those wishing to emulate someone demonstrating "life more abundantly" (which is surely you demonstrating) should copy your dress code from a desire to imitate, and not from a directive, yes? I'll read some more on these "dress code directives," and (only) dimly appreciate what a pastor might face in this regard-I'd also appreciate some scripture?

My feeling is that anyone a pastor might feel needs a discussion on proper dress in church really has other issues that should be addressed? Maybe? And ty.

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