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Originally Posted by Aquila
I'll chime in. From an Apostolic perspective I can't embrace the bolded portions above. If I had to embrace a creed... I'd embrace the Apostle's Creed:
The Apostles' Creed
1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.
2. And in Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, our Lord;
3. Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary;
4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead, and buried; He descended into hell;
5. The third day He rose again from the dead;
6. He ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
7. From thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
8. I believe in the Holy Spirit.
9. I believe a holy catholic Church, the communion of saints;
10. The forgiveness of sins;
11. The resurrection of the body;
12. And the life everlasting. AMEN. Twelve beautiful lines. The creed is actually a perfectly biblical creed. It is also flexible to allow some varience of opinion in some matters (freedom of thought). I considered adopting this creed when I first left the UPCI to establish both a sense of orthodoxy among those I studied with, yet have the credal confession of a more Oneness faith.
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I'm not sure why you object to last 2 things you bolded.
1. Surely if Jesus is God then he in some sense came down from heaven for he was not with us before the incarnation.
2. The bible calls Jesus begotten. And if you believe he was God then he surely wasn't made.
I think you don't really have as much of a problem with those 2 bolds as you said you do...
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