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Originally Posted by Titus2woman
This is evidently a very emotional subject for a lot of people.
After much prayer last night I still stand where I stand. Abortion on demand does not sit well with me at all but the complicated screening to decide who is worthy of necessary treatment and who is not... Well I'm just not sure how all that works out.
We see PIH, preeclampsia, HELLP, DIC, Hourglass membranes, P. Previa with hemmorhage, Abruption, and mothers with newly diagnosed cancers that need treatment, etc. enough that I don't see this stuff as some kind of imaginary scenario but as something that is real and could happen to my sister, daughter, daughter in law.
So here is another question for you all. If a baby has to be taken from the womb early do you then believe that we are obligated to use every medical intervention now available to save it?
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T2W, you are treading on dangerous ground here. Perhaps Froggy will not look at upon this question as the baby taken from the womb. He seems to look at it as a termination of pregnancy, therefore..abortion. Never mind the circumstances.
But let's wait to see if he clarifies his position
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Originally Posted by Titus2woman
Many of these babies top a million dollars in hospital expenses and are very damaged when they do survive...So...Is it OK to let them die a natural death?
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They should be given every chance to survive imo.
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For people who say we believe that to die is gain I find that many of us are avoiding death with all we have. Made what Randy said at the end of his post kind of real... babies go to heaven... no chance of mistakes... the rest of us on the other hand seem to have to have a lot of stuff right to do the same.
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T2W, you do have a point here. Most of us go to the doctor because we don't want any medical condition to get out of hand, therefore the possibility of death. Would anybody expect a mother to die because she develops something as dangerous ad DIC, preeclampsia or any of the above you mentioned? Then to take these situations and call it an abortion because the definition of the term is to terminate pregnancy. frog is trying to find some loophole in my stance because I made a statement that I do not approve of ANY abortion. He wants to use medical emergencies as a point to blow apart my statement by pointing out that technically removing a baby from the mother's womb is abortion and that I approve of that condition of "abortion".
But let's wait and see if frog will clarify his intent on this particular subject.
Froggy says all abortions are willful abortions. I consider willful abortions to be abortion upon demand...simply because the mother, father or both do not want to disrupt their life with a baby. Perhaps he will call me a hypocrite for not considering these medical procedures to be a willful abortion because of the desire to save the mother's life. These types of termination of pregnancy will happen either by medical procedures or by death and are not willful.