The Four "Hidden" Dynasties

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by acerrak

if you live in a matrix world then yes there is no spoon, but for us. the spoon exists cause we live in the real world, and i use it to eat. Thus the spec exists.

I didn't mean to imply that it didn't exist,
but that we see it too literally.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Timmy

I have done that before. There are no instructions on how to cast lots to find God's will. The examples don't say how many "casts" were done.

You said I don't get to make the rules. What are the rules? Tell me. And tell me where the rules came from.

Ok, stop. You make a puzzle of a piece.
123=left, and 456=right. Cast once,
pre-committing to the result.

Commit to asking the Q's that will
then begin to arise in your mind,
with the same commit to follow,
if you dare.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by acerrak

it depends on the context of the day and the situation he was addressing.
Peter said it was better to listen to God and not man, Peter went against his governmental authority.

so im just inclide to view it from a hebrew perspective. The example i have come from babylon. God raised them up to bring judgment to israel. near the end of the seige Jeremiah was telling people to surrendor themselves and their life would be spared.

like i said this was a isolated event, and this could also be a isolated event that we do not completly understand because of the day and age and the purpose it was written.

No one in Pauls day would have listened to Nero or dominition who claimed to be God in the flesh and wanted worship. a deeper study is needed.

Hey, at the end of the day, God controls everything. This doesn't mean
that satan does not have a domain, or domains, and control them right now.
We live in a fallen world.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Hey, at the end of the day, God controls everything. This doesn't mean
that satan does not have a domain, or domains, and control them right now.
We live in a fallen world.

while God is the supreme authority i will agree. does things happen with out His approval? that would be a good question. I would say yes

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

I didn't mean to imply that it didn't exist,
but that we see it too literally.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Ok, stop. You make a puzzle of a piece.
123=left, and 456=right. Cast once,
pre-committing to the result.

Commit to asking the Q's that will
then begin to arise in your mind,
with the same commit to follow,
if you dare.

Sigh.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Hey, at the end of the day, God controls everything. This doesn't mean
that satan does not have a domain, or domains, and control them right now.
We live in a fallen world.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Timmy

ok, then grasp the mechanism whereby it happens: I say something (cast the die) being pre-committed to what I say, knowing that it will manifest into a speck, and I see that it is possible to make undesireable specks; not that the speck isn't "real," as it's very real. It is manifested, and you manifest.

[bbyrd009]

The initial grasp of this will prolly initially cause
a remarked state of dumbness in one, I guess.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Sigh.

Oooooh; you tried that already and it didn't work, huh?