But the real point of this poll is to be an analogy to your poll, asking if God can murder. If He can kill without violating His own law, why can't He say something that's not true without violating His own law?
By the way, why don't you tell AFF what you said on The 316: if God would lie, then ____________. You remember what you said, don't you?
Imo, because God's killing is not = to a human's killing,
for the same reason. In a sense when one can make the vessel, one can smash it with impunity.
And no, I don't remember,
but I certainly have no problem
with you quoting me, as scary as
that is coming from you, wadr.
Bring it.
Is it true that you can ask anything in Jesus's name and it will be done for you?
Yes, However there are stipulations to that.
James 1:6
"But he must ask in faith, without any doubts, for the one who has doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind."
1 John 3:22
And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
If you aren't keeping the commandments and doing that which is pleasing in his sight you won't be answered nor if you are doubting. Also, you must fall under Jesus name, go unto the "Adoption" of Christ being baptized and take on the name of Christ where all authority is given.
As for the Adam and Eve deal, didn't God create us in his image and his likeness, with no knowledge of evil or satan or demonic triflings, and we know from multiple verses that the wages of sin are death AND that all sickness and suffering are spiritual in essence (demonic) so therefor when they ate the fruit, it opened a gate they gained a knowledge of evil, those spirits could attack them and in that day their immortality was stripped away from them, and their death did come eventually, didn't mean you would eat it and die, geeze man you realize you just repeated what satan did in the garden... he got them with the same thing, you won't die god was lying.... even after the story your saying, God did lie they didn't die... if that was the case wouldn't that nullify the entirety of the bible?
Also, when God is the one who gave them life in the first place... how is it murder, murder would be unlawfully taking the life of another man.... God created and is the owner of the life to begin with, he can take it back when he wants. Same way if I made a robot I could shut it down whenever I pleased... (I just keep coming with these robot analogies....)
The whole point of a spiritual walk is a spiritual life. Scripture is not meant to make sense to you in the temporal, and so it does not make sense to you. Give up trying to make sense of Scripture, in your present state. It is not meant for you. It reveals you, just as It does everyone else, and unfortunately for you the description in your case precludes the insurmountable advantage of access to Scripture.
So, you are really just wasting your time,
and ours, by this constantattackfrom
everyangle, relentlesslybeatingyour head
against a completelyunyieldingFoundation,
which you'll notice most everyone stays
a mile away from.
The only way you can really comment on Scripture
is when you regain access to Scripture,
and all of your comments until then,
and forever after, are going to not only reflect,
but be compared to this.
In other words, it isn't actually true.
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James 1:6
"But he must ask in faith, without any doubts, for the one who has doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind."
1 John 3:22
And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
Jesus put no stipulation on it other than asking in His name, in John 14. James and John added stipulations. And 1 John 5:14 give the best "stipulation" of all! Ask for something God wants to do, and He'll do it! Isn't that awesome! And pointless!
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If you aren't keeping the commandments and doing that which is pleasing in his sight you won't be answered nor if you are doubting. Also, you must fall under Jesus name, go unto the "Adoption" of Christ being baptized and take on the name of Christ where all authority is given.
As for the Adam and Eve deal, didn't God create us in his image and his likeness, with no knowledge of evil or satan or demonic triflings, and we know from multiple verses that the wages of sin are death AND that all sickness and suffering are spiritual in essence (demonic) so therefor when they ate the fruit, it opened a gate they gained a knowledge of evil, those spirits could attack them and in that day their immortality was stripped away from them, and their death did come eventually, didn't mean you would eat it and die, geeze man you realize you just repeated what satan did in the garden... he got them with the same thing, you won't die god was lying.... even after the story your saying, God did lie they didn't die... if that was the case wouldn't that nullify the entirety of the bible?
No. Not all of it.
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Also, when God is the one who gave them life in the first place... how is it murder, murder would be unlawfully taking the life of another man.... God created and is the owner of the life to begin with, he can take it back when he wants. Same way if I made a robot I could shut it down whenever I pleased... (I just keep coming with these robot analogies....)
Fine. But it sure isn't something worthy of honor and praise. Is it?
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Imo, because God's killing is not = to a human's killing,
for the same reason. In a sense when one can make the vessel, one can smash it with impunity.
And no, I don't remember,
but I certainly have no problem
with you quoting me, as scary as
that is coming from you, wadr.
Bring it.
You said if God were to lie, then He wouldn't be God.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Exactly. It isn't true for you, in your present state. I guess this comes across as maybe an accusation, like "satan runs your religion,"
(nevermind) when what I mean is that we are responsible for insuring
that the right conditions obtain, in order to have access to the gift of,
in this case, Scripture. And that is just not where you are at at the present moment, by your own admission.
I get everything I have faith for, personally,
and quite a bit more. Thank You, God.
Jesus put no stipulation on it other than asking in His name, in John 14. James and John added stipulations. And 1 John 5:14 give the best "stipulation" of all! Ask for something God wants to do, and He'll do it! Isn't that awesome! And pointless!
No. Not all of it.
Fine. But it sure isn't something worthy of honor and praise. Is it?
Even if they did add the stipulations in Matthew 18 Jesus stated
"Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
"Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also."
As for 1 John 5:14
If you are truly christian anything that you are asking will be within his will, because your wants would be likened to that of Gods and not worldly wants to begin with.
I think that it is worthy of fear and praise, fear that it don't happen to me and praise that it hasn't yet haha, you wouldn't condemn somebody for destroying anything else that was rightfully theirs what makes God different, however I don't know of any instances where God killed anybody that was righteous and living accordingly, and the wages of sin are death. Either way if your truly christian you don't want to be here on earth in the first place.
Philippians 1:22-30
But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you. And having this confidence, I know that I shall abide and continue with you all for your furtherance and joy of faith; That your rejoicing may be more abundant in Jesus Christ for me by my coming to you again. Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God. For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake; Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me
Exactly. It isn't true for you, in your present state. I guess this comes across as maybe an accusation, like "satan runs your religion,"
(nevermind) when what I mean is that we are responsible for insuring
that the right conditions obtain, in order to have access to the gift of,
in this case, Scripture. And that is just not where you are at at the present moment, by your own admission.
I get everything I have faith for, personally,
and quite a bit more. Thank You, God.
Cool.
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