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Old 02-04-2013, 08:47 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a gay friend?

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You are right sir. Love IS NOT conditional. If it is then to me it isn't love, but a strong like, in a friendly sense, or lust, in a realtional sense. That is pretty clear to me.

Forgive me if this reads a crass, you know me and know I am NOT crass, but does your famliy, children, wife and church know you feel love is conditional? I may be misunderstanding what you are meaing here. Please address this if I am.

I thought we are supposed to bless people... even those we don't always agree with? Doesn't the Bible tell us in Matthew & Luke to "bless them that curse you"... if that is the case are we supposed to only bless the ones that curse us, presuming we agree about marriage? How about are we supposed to curse those we agree with because they don't despise or use me?
While I refuse to be engaged in personal family reference, love, I believe, does have conditions - in particular it must occur in "Truth". True love will be expressed in and through ones words and actions. I do not want to sanction what God condemns, and should I do so in the name of "love" I have deceived myself and he whom I portend to love.

While God's love is far reaching - indeed to the deepest of sin, it is not without condition either.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

Yes, we should hold our "enemies" to the same standard as we hold those we "love". We forgive. We should not render evil because it was done to us.

Even with those we love there is no liberty to overlook unrighteousness or immorality. Love demands a response in Truth.
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God doesn't approve of sin... God forgives sin and imputes righteousness where there is none.
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Re: How do you deal with a gay friend?

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While I refuse to be engaged in personal family reference, love, I believe, does have conditions - in particular it must occur in "Truth". True love will be expressed in and through ones words and actions. I do not want to sanction what God condemns, and should I do so in the name of "love" I have deceived myself and he whom I portend to love.

While God's love is far reaching - indeed to the deepest of sin, it is not without condition either.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

Yes, we should hold our "enemies" to the same standard as we hold those we "love". We forgive. We should not render evil because it was done to us.

Even with those we love there is no liberty to overlook unrighteousness or immorality. Love demands a response in Truth.
I hope my question about the family didnt upset you. It wasn't intended to that's for sure.

I cannot not love people and accept who they are for who they are NOT for what they are. I accept that people are all at different levels of commitment to God & at different levels of revelation. Within the confines of that not everyone accepts what sin is or what sin isn't. I truly love te sinner in spite of whatever try partake in. I won't be a judge. I will be a friend. As for me marrying a gay couple I would marry any couple. I believe in love... I believe it is hard to find and when people find it oftentimes it is the most unusual places & with the most unusual people - gay or straight.
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