I believe that a man's home is his castle. If you feel convicted not to allow them to sleep in the same room, that's perfectly fine. Others might feel differently. It doesn't mean that they fully condone the lifestyle, it only means that they have a different approach.
I also believe there is a 'Castle Doctrine" even when it concerns unmarried guests. LOL
"5 When he had entered Capernaum, a centurion came forward to him, appealing to him, 6 “Lord, my servant is lying paralyzed at home, suffering terribly.” 7 And he said to him, “I will come and heal him.” 8 But the centurion replied, “Lord, I am not worthy to have you come under my roof, but only say the word, and my servant will be healed. 9 For I too am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. And I say to one, ‘Go,’ and he goes, and to another, ‘Come,’ and he comes, and to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.” 10 When Jesus heard this, he marveled and said to those who followed him, “Truly, I tell you, with no one in Israel have I found such faith. 11 I tell you, many will come from east and west and recline at table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven, 12 while the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” 13 And to the centurion Jesus said, “Go; let it be done for you as you have believed.” And the servant was healed at that very moment." ~ Matthew 8:5-13 (ESV)
Some have pointed out that it was common for centurions to have male lovers as servants. This was because they were forbidden to marry and were forbidden to sire children. It's been said that the Greek term for "servant" here is "pais", a term used for these "lover servants" in extra-biblical Greek literature. The centurion obviously wasn't ignorant of how the Jews felt about Gentiles and their lifestyles. The centurion declared that he wasn't even worthy for Jesus to come into his home. Yet Jesus demonstrates great compassion and heals this centurion's servant. I can see the love of Jesus extending this far. Primarily because the centurion was honest about being unworthy. If we confess our sins before God, He is faithful and just to forgive us. He is patient and slow to anger. It's a matter of the heart's attitude.
Is it possible that Jesus healed the servant-lover of a contrite centurion?
My friend there are several issues that are apparent to me with this post. However, I will address what I see as the most grievous. (The bolded section)
In the American culture we have been so incrementally desensitized to sin and wickedness that even in the "church" many do not see anything wrong with sin. Cursing, adultery, fornication, lying, arrogance, self righteousness, homosexuality, etc. I assure you however that God actually does care if a person is gay, (or any of these other offenses) and especially if that person says they are a Christian and completely at peace with the fact that they are living in direct violation of God's Word. (Can anyone say with Paul "and such were some of us, but......we were washed...sanctified....justified through the blood of Jesus Christ)Whether we treat them with respect/love is not even a question.....of course we do.....because we love them and hate the sin. Respect and love, however, are not the same as acceptance or approval of their sin.
Later you actually mentioned that you could perform a marriage uniting the two as one, which again is a violation of God's Word. The only way for you to say/do that would for you to believe that their lifestyle is NOT an abomination to God, and that it is acceptable according to the scriptures.
Part 1: I don't agree. I believe God cares about our sins but I don't think he cares that my friends are gay... I really don't. I know these men very well and they both prayed, fought, fasted for years to be "delivered" from being gay... NOTHING happened at all. So either it doesn't matter to God as much as you & some others feel or God doesn't answer prayers much anymore. JMHO though...
Part 2: Often I have seen this term used as a back-handed statement. I have actually heard a preacher call gays "fags" & other horrible things but then say "love the sinner hate the sin." It made me sick. This was also long before I knew my roommates too. I also said to the man, "I bet your mom and dad used to sleep around before they married, but you don't hear me calling them 'sluts' then following it up "love the sinner, hate the sin" do ya?" I AM NOT saying you are doing that same thing here... It just reminded me...
Part 3: Agreed sir! Glad you caught that. I am NOT against gays having the same rights as hetersexuals. I am just not against it.
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"If we don't learn to live together we're gonna die alone"
Jack Shephard.
J S "Love" is not conditional is what I hear you saying...
I think it is quite conditional. There are times when God's love is at work when we can love beyond the normal human response. However, even God himself, though willing to die on our behalf, is not forever unconditional in His love.
To perform the nuptials of homosexuals would mean to bless that which God calls abomination. I would fear for the faux minister more than the couple.
You are right sir. Love IS NOT conditional. If it is then to me it isn't love, but a strong like, in a friendly sense, or lust, in a realtional sense. That is pretty clear to me.
Forgive me if this reads a crass, you know me and know I am NOT crass, but does your famliy, children, wife and church know you feel love is conditional? I may be misunderstanding what you are meaing here. Please address this if I am.
I thought we are supposed to bless people... even those we don't always agree with? Doesn't the Bible tell us in Matthew & Luke to "bless them that curse you"... if that is the case are we supposed to only bless the ones that curse us, presuming we agree about marriage? How about are we supposed to curse those we agree with because they don't despise or use me?
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"If we don't learn to live together we're gonna die alone"
Jack Shephard.
It appears all the post above me have voice my opinion for me.
I figured it would and that is fine too. I have no problem with your opinion... I really don't because I know where it comes from... But it seems others have a problem with mine which is fine too.
I mean the thing too!
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"If we don't learn to live together we're gonna die alone"
Jack Shephard.
I love all children, but not all children are my children.
If there was a child professing to be mine, but he wasn't, it would be irritating after while and simply a lie.
Some children do lie.
God loves all children, but not all children are His.
Christianity is exclusive-- and I'm not even speaking in the Oneness Pentecostal sense.
That wasn't the meaning behind my post about children, but that is okay. You bring up a good point that God loves all children, but IDK if I agree with the next part that not all children are His. We are ALL His, but there are some that wants nothing to do with Him at all... doesn't change the fact that they are His children. Perhaps they are his astranged children, but children nonetheless.
Christianity is a members only club - you are right, but one doesn't have to be a part of said club to be loved by Him or me.
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"If we don't learn to live together we're gonna die alone"
Jack Shephard.
Jesus LOVES and wants to reconcile ALL to Him. He does not say, I will love you if...............
But, He does say, IF you love ME..................
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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