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Old 05-21-2007, 01:13 PM
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Oneness is not beautiful, as it fails the test of true Christianity which is to affirm that the Son of God possesses every divine attribute; eternity, creatorship, omnipresence, immutability, omnipotence.
You limit the Godhead and even your own thinking in what you say. The PERSON of the Son is the same PERSON as the Father. THAT IS WHY THE SON POSSESSES all the attributes of the Father. It's that simple.

And anyone who says the ONENESS is not beautiful has a weird urge for polytheism, in my opinion.

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Most cults such as the Mormons will call Jesus …. by the name ‘GOD.’ However all cults will either redefine the term; ‘Jesus’ or ‘God.’ So Mormons blaspheme the former by claiming that millions of Mormons will also one day become Gods too. Jehovah’s Witnesses blaspheme the latter by redefining the word ‘God’ to mean a lesser deity; the mighty and not the almighty God. Oneness exists in many different forms, but most commonly, it redefines the word ‘Jesus’ when applied to Christ’s deity to mean God the Father and then strips the Son of every one of his divine attributes so that they’ll claim that the Son isn’t the creator, isn’t eternal, isn’t omnipresent etc. This comes under the condemnation of John 8:24.
Nonsense. Learn what oneness actually teaches, and please cease making strawmen of our beliefs.

Mormons do not believe Jesus is the PERSON OF THE ONE ALMIGHTY GOD. JW's do not believe Jesus is the PERSON OF THE ONE ALMIGHTY GOD. Oneness teaches Jesus is the ONE ALMIGHTY GOD. You cannot get any closer to saying there is absolutely ONE God while at the same time saying that One is Jesus than the way Oneness proposes it.

Jesus' person is the Person of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. And therefore Jesus Possesses all the attributes of Deity that exist.

Your misrepresentattive diversions that claim we propose the Son does not possess all the divine attributes that can and do exist in Deity is really poor form, Bladder.

Anyone with a lick of sense can recognize that when Oneness claims the PERSON of the Father, and Son and Holy Ghost are one and the same, contrary to trinitarianism's three persons, it is saying THIS SINGLE PERSONHOOD demands that the Son have all the divine attributes of Deity that ever do exist, whether the Son existed when the Person of the Son did this or not. These attributes are common to Father, Son and Holy Ghost because ONE PERSON IS the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. How can you turn around and say the person of the Son does not have the divine creative attributes, etc., that the Person of the Father possesses if the Person of the Son IS THE PERSON of the Father? Do you not see the folly in such a wild claim?

When I was single, I was a painter and preacher. When I got married, I took upon myself a state of being that I had never experienced before. Same with God manifesting as Son. But I never lost my attributes of painting or preaching just because I began to live a married life. Similarly, the Son has all the creative attributes of the Father because they are ONE and the SAME PERSON. The husband was a painter and preacher even though the husband role I became did not exist when I was a painter and preacher beforehand. THAT IS BECAUSE all these roles are of ONE PERSON, Mike Blume. In speaking of ROLES, the roles are different. In speaking of PERSON, they are one and the same.

I doubt you are even TRYING to understand Oneness, Bladder, because anyone who reads our statements that Father, Son and Holy Ghost are ONE PERSON would implicitly know we believe the Son has all divine attributes that exist.

Now, tell me how RED is an apple.
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