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Originally Posted by Iron_Bladder
OK so if the Son is divine and as God is eternal, as that's one of his divine attributes, creatorship is another ( Isaiah 44:24), then that would make the Son acording to you both an eternal Son (a Son who has existed as the Son eternally) and also the creator. |
Extrapolate a bit further back in your reasoning beyond SON. The SON is the person of Jesus manifested in flesh. Jesus is the eternal one. Not the Son. The Son had a beginning. In fact the only reason the bible gives for the title SON is an anthropomorphic reason. The Father impregnated Mary and she birthed a child, making the Son of this mother named Mary and the Father. How can the Son be eternal unless Mary is also eternal? You cannot have an eternal Son without both an eternal Father and Mother. And since this is not the case, the Son is not eternal.
Since the PERSON who is the Son is the same Person who is the Father, and the PERSON is eternal, we see the deity in the Son. The Son does not have to be eternal in order for the person who is the Son to be eternal.
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You can't have it both ways, if you deny that the Son is eternal and creator, then like the JWs and Unitarians your actually claiming that the Son isn't YHWH GOD, but is a part of the creation by YHWH.
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Incorrect. If there is a SINGLE PERSON who is eternal, and manifested as Father, and then also as Son only through incarnation and onward, then the Son is not eternal, but His person is.
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