For Wandy Rayne

[ILG]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

True and there may not be THAT many people trying to steal it anyways if you play your cards right. For one thing, I wouldn't be talking about any of my food storage if more members here lived close by. It is never brought up when talking to our neighbors. Even a number of close relatives know nothing about it.
The secret is to lay low should it become necessary to actually start using it, as much as possible. The guns (of which we have plenty) are a last last last resort.

Righto, you are! I don't talk about it much. Unfortunately, I have a couple of relatives who know who would probably rob me blind if they got the chance.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by ILG

Righto, you are! I don't talk about it much. Unfortunately, I have a couple of relatives who know who would probably rob me blind if they got the chance.

I am not quite sure what I will do when I come across genuinely starving people. My guess is that I will not be able to NOT give a morsel out, especially if they have starving kids or babies. One prepper has a great idea and that is to make very small little care packets to hand out in these cases so as not to flag yourself as being stocked up. I DO know that those who openly mock anyone who is storing any amount of food now will NOT be getting any from me (other than the type with a lot of "lead" content) when the SHTF. The grasshopper and the ants come to mind.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I am not quite sure what I will do when I come across genuinely starving people. My guess is that I will not be able to NOT give a morsel out, especially if they have starving kids or babies. One prepper has a great idea and that is to make very small little care packets to hand out in these cases so as not to flag yourself as being stocked up. I DO know that those who openly mock anyone who is storing any amount of food now will NOT be getting any from me (other than the type with a lot of "lead" content) when the SHTF. The grasshopper and the ants come to mind.

I can't understand why anyone would make fun of that. Our grandparents who went through the depression would just think we are smart. Even if nothing ever happens, it's just smart.

[ILG]

So, what is it that started you thinking this way? What about your wife? Why does she think so too? Was it from watching CNN and MSN and you could just see the writing on the wall? Are you economic students? What?

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by ILG

So, what is it that started you thinking this way? What about your wife? Why does she think so too? Was it from watching CNN and MSN and you could just see the writing on the wall? Are you economic students? What?

I actively fought this kind of thinking until a couple of years ago. The writing was on the walls (read: National debt along with our newly crowned imperial president) but I didn't want to face it. There has actually been a lot of comfort once I gave in to the fact that things are going to get very bad very fast and I feel like I have some control over my own destiny by starting to prepare now.

Look at it like this. Once the economy collapses whether it is over night or takes a week or two (regardless it will happen fast) and you go to an empty grocery store, imagine at that time having access to a time machine and being able to go back a month or two. What would you buy to prepare for your current situation? No realize that is essentially the situation your in now given that it hasn't collapsed yet.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I actively fought this kind of thinking until a couple of years ago. The writing was on the walls (read: National debt along with our newly crowned imperial president) but I didn't want to face it. There has actually been a lot of comfort once I gave in to the fact that things are going to get very bad very fast and I feel like I have some control over my own destiny by starting to prepare now.

Look at it like this. Once the economy collapses whether it is over night or takes a week or two (regardless it will happen fast) and you go to an empty grocery store, imagine at that time having access to a time machine and being able to go back a month or two. What would you buy to prepare for your current situation? No realize that is essentially the situation your in now given that it hasn't collapsed yet.

A number of years back, I started studying economics on my own. I was just curious. This was shortly before the 2008 crash. What I have learned has completely astounded me. Now, I try to always keep my finger on the pulse of the economy because it has implications for all of us....for our futures, our 401k's our retirements, our healthcare, our equity......everything financial is connected and we all need to pay attention.

Like I said, I am a mild prepper. For me, it is more about securing my financial future concerning retirement and all that.....however, I do agree there is potential for a crash. I can't say I have "given in" to the idea that it is inevitable. It certainly could happen. And if it happens the way some people think, we are all in for a very rough ride whether we have prepared or not. If we have made some preparations, we are going to be much better off.

What I have learned studying economics is this; going the normal route, working a job and socking money into a 401k doesn't guarantee a financial future. We should have ALL learned this back in 2008. I have no idea if my financial future will be secure regardless of what I do. But I am hoping with some education and preparation, things could be better than they otherwise would have been. Since my husband and I gave all our money away to the church for so many years, we have a lot of catching up to do.

So, a crash could happen. I think it is MORE likely that we are going to be like frogs in a pot....our money inflated away over the years and people won't really notice. When I go to the grocery store and see what used to be .99 is now 1.59.....people yawn and don't notice too much. But that is a HUGE increase and most items are going that way. Take into consideration then that social security is probably going to be cut and that $1000.00 a month that a person was maybe going to get will be worth $500.00 or $250.00 a month and everything will cost through the roof.

I think a dramatic huge scenario is unlikely. We already HAD that in 2008. Now, it is the slow bleed for years and years and years. We are trying to outrun it.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I am not quite sure what I will do when I come across genuinely starving people. My guess is that I will not be able to NOT give a morsel out, especially if they have starving kids or babies. One prepper has a great idea and that is to make very small little care packets to hand out in these cases so as not to flag yourself as being stocked up. I DO know that those who openly mock anyone who is storing any amount of food now will NOT be getting any from me (other than the type with a lot of "lead" content) when the SHTF. The grasshopper and the ants come to mind.

Randy I live in Florida, and you live in Arizona, don't think you'll last until I make it to you. The Zombies never sleep, (and they're predator fast), so they will be smelling the live blood and flesh, it will lead them right to you. Oh, how's the sword practice coming?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by ILG

I can't understand why anyone would make fun of that. Our grandparents who went through the depression would just think we are smart. Even if nothing ever happens, it's just smart.

My father stored food, and after he died we ended up throwing it away.
He had a whole basement wall to wall with cans, ammo, and medical supplies.

He had that all stored since the house was first built in 1959, and it was all thrown out in 1990. He was an atheist, and was preparing for the Russians to saturation bomb New York. I became a Christian, and found that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. I'm still fascinated how the media, and religion intertwines to manipulate people through their fears, and have them focus on that fear to act out behavior to such extreme lengths. While on one hand a liberal Christian mocks the standards of an ultra-conservative Christian, he or she then spins right around to extreme behavior in another way, hence the extremes of "some" preppers, and bug outs.

Just remember the Donner Party started out with a group of civilized well meaning people who after their situation turned bleak they survived through cannibalism, hence the whole zombie armageddon/world war Z fear being preached over the media pulpit.

I thought we were supposed to be in Marshall law by now? Wasn't that the message that was sermonized from the Cabelvision Vatican of the airwaves? The effect of War of the Worlds radio program in 1938 taught the media how powerful it was to manipulate the masses.

Fear shouldn't be a response, fear is only a choice.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/early-p...undation/30594

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by ILG

Like I said, I am a mild prepper.

That's good sense.

[ILG]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

My father stored food, and after he died we ended up throwing it away.
He had a whole basement wall to wall with cans, ammo, and medical supplies.

He had that all stored since the house was first built in 1959, and it was all thrown out in 1990. He was an atheist, and was preparing for the Russians to saturation bomb New York. I became a Christian, and found that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. I'm still fascinated how the media, and religion intertwines to manipulate people through their fears, and have them focus on that fear to act out behavior to such extreme lengths. While on one hand a liberal Christian mocks the standards of an ultra-conservative Christian, he or she then spins right around to extreme behavior in another way, hence the extremes of "some" preppers, and bug outs.

I completely agree with this statement and the same is true in the opposite direction. If your father were kind of crazy in his attitude with this, I can see why it would be a turn off for you. I was watching a video of a girl and her father and they were "prepping". She had this sadness in her eyes that I thought was sad. Whether they are Christian views or prepper views or whatever they are.....they should benefit people and not hurt them. (Man was not made for the sabbath, but the sabbath was made for man.)

Just remember the Donner Party started out with a group of civilized well meaning people who after their situation turned bleak they survived through cannibalism, hence the whole zombie armageddon/world war Z fear being preached over the media pulpit.

I thought we were supposed to be in Marshall law by now? Wasn't that the message that was sermonized from the Cabelvision Vatican of the airwaves? The effect of War of the Worlds radio program in 1938 taught the media how powerful it was to manipulate the masses.

Fear shouldn't be a response, fear is only a choice.

There are things we should be afraid of, but not a reactionary fear. Fear should be a motivator for lessening powerlessness. If a reaction make a person more powerless or alienated from loved ones, it is not helping anything or anyone.