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Originally Posted by bbyrd009
 I am standing on the backs of giants, and my position here is not original; you either see and agree with this
http://www.wikihow.com/Recognize-the...ristian-Models
or you do not. While only one reference is given, this is the result of much study that MFox just happened to put the most succinctly. I'm curious to hear any objections to any points in the article, ty.
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Only one observation. Fox says:
“What does God say? "...the LORD said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man’s heart is evil
from his youth." ''
Genesis 8:21''<br>Which may ''sound'' like a condemnation to someone unfamiliar with God's condemnation; but
the important part of this verse for us at the moment is the ''from his youth'' part. You are not "born a sinner" in the sense that Western Christianity teaches…”(Matthew Fox).
It is important to understand the etymology and meaning of the Hebrew translated here as “youth.”
H5271 נָעוּר נָעוּר נְעוּרָה na`uwr (naw-oor') (or naur {naw-oor'} and (feminine) nturah {neh- oo-raw'}

n-f.
1. (only in plural collectively or emphatic form) youth, the state (juvenility) or the persons (young people)
[(properly) passive participle from H5288 as denominative]
KJV: childhood, youth.
Finds its root in:
H5288 נַעַר na`ar (nah'-ar) n-m.
1. (concretely) a boy (as active),
from the age of infancy to adolescence
2. (by implication) a servant
3. (also, by interchange of sex), a girl (of similar range in age)
[from H5287]
KJV:
babe, boy, child, damsel (from the margin), lad, servant, young (man).
We find here a word that is inclusive of the entire range of age, from infancy to youth. It is a faulty exegesis which would seize on the phrase "from his youth," and interpret that so as to exclude infancy.