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Old 04-19-2013, 07:21 AM
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Re: Tha Fall of Man and the Law of Sin

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I have pondered whether to even respond to this thread. Luke has already addressed the major points quite well. What you present is a Biblical and theological mess. Your entire argument is a convoluted tangle of philosophical speculation and faulty exegesis. You even have me agreeing with bbyrd and that in and of itself speaks volumes.

After reading Luke's rebuttal, there is very little I have to add. He covered the main flaws. But in re-reading just now I noticed your response to bbyrd: "All I can say is please present your case carefully so by the time you are done you will realize what I have shared has God's approval."

That my friend is hubris at best and certainly a deception. No one speaking with 'God's approval" could have written the following:

“The commandment given to Adam was if they ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil was that day they would surely die. They died physically that day because they did not live out the 1000 years that is the day. They also died spiritually that day by being separated from God because of their sin that took on death and separation from God.”

“In the beginning Adam could not sin because both he, and God who cannot sin, were both of the same Spirit.”

“As long as the Spirit of God was in charge in Adam, he could not sin. Therefore there had to be a change made that would allow Adam to sin that is something he was not capable of doing when first created.”

“This is where the phrase "made subject to vanity" comes into play that when translated means Adam was altered so that he could not perform as he had been originally created to perform.”


Matthew 24:11
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

2 Peter 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

I am not sure of your motive in posting. I choose to believe that you are sincere. But my friend you are seriously deceived in your theology and your view of God is horrendous.


Larry, I rebuke you in Jesus name!......... and after what you have posted for sure I am not your friend

You are totally off the wall and without any support for saying what you have accused me of. However, I must thank you for being so adamant because before reading your post I was actually thinking rather highly of you. Thank you for showing me my error and that you are no different from most others who cannot tell their left hand from the right hand about the things of God.

Furthermore, you say you believe in signs and wonders as evidence to God's approval and blessings on a chosen people; Amen? I think so!

Do you have testimony of God's healing people of terminal diseases by you laying hands and praying over them, do you have testimony of God raising the dead by you laying hands and praying over someone? Because I do and have the witnesses to back my words.

Before you start making more false accusations about false prophets etc.etc, consider this. When someone dies the spirit goes back to God, and only God can determine whether or not the spirit should return to the person who left. In other words to make it simple enough for you to be able to understand through your over-educated level of intelligence, Satan cannot raise the dead!

You are a perfect example of how since the time when the apostles were at the helm, the seminaries of man and their man made degrees have been leading the children of God into false worship for so long now that evil is called good and good is called evil,

You should have remained silent and not gone with the false prophet charges you have made against me........ Without repenting this will not work out well for you!

Doug
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