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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Yes there is something for men to do.
It's all by faith. He works in us both to will and do his good pleasure.
2 Peter 1:5-11
5 Yes, and for this very cause adding on your part all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence; and in moral excellence, knowledge; 6 and in knowledge, self-control; and in self-control perseverance; and in perseverance godliness; 7 and in godliness brotherly affection; and in brotherly affection, love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, they make you to be not idle nor unfruitful to the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is blind, seeing only what is near, having forgotten the cleansing from his old sins. 10 Therefore, brothers,* be more diligent to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never stumble. 11 For thus you will be richly supplied with the entrance into the eternal Kingdom of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. |
i am not denying that we can expend human effort, but how does that human effort relate to the issue of predestination? if we are predestined there is no need for human effort. if we can expend human effort then how do we deal with all of the verses that teach predestination?
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