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Old 08-06-2013, 08:25 AM
stephenroehm stephenroehm is offline
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Re: Human Effort In Salvation?

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Good response. But it is not all peaches and cream, everyone must give up their deceptions, and that is very hard for folks. The refiner's fire while not literal fire, does do a work of refining, and that is not necessarily a walk in the park.

But it is more becoming of the all mighty, who never gives up, whose mercy never fails.

Man has distorted and literalized the symbolic language of the Hebrew and Greek, that was very common and easily understood for those in whose day it was written.

The Word of God, while still containing the revelation of Jesus Christ, has been filter thru centuries of the Roman state church and Western Christianity.

Eternal life is knowing the Son of God and the Father who sent him, first relationship with him thru the Spirit, then He opens our eyes and ears to see and to hear.
I thought we may get here. This is where our disagreement would begin, at the very foundation of how we understand Scripture. You perceive it to be understood symbolically and I perceive it to be understood literally, albeit through scenes of "worldly" (for a lack of a better term) stories and through Spiritual ones.

Is it your belief that the Scripture was meant to be understood symbollically or allegorically and that the Roman Catholic Church changed it into a literal interpretation? I feel the exact opposite, that the Scripture was intended to be taken literally so that any could read and understand it but the RCC perverted it it to be interpreted allegorically, largely to create dependence upon the Catholic church "fathers" for understanding. I am asking because I want to make sure I'm following you.

I tend to see the Word through the lense of dispensationalism and through the identification and extraction of principles that God has shown His people, both principles that He operates by and, especially, those principles He wants His people to live by.
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