Come Out Of Her My People

[n david]

Originally Posted by renee819

As we were going out the door, on my second visit, I asked, what did they believe?
He answered, “Oh, we are oneness.”
I knew that. But I wanted to know their standards. So, I said, 'I don't believe in a lot of man made laws.”
He said, nothing.
Therefore I assumed that he did believe in the man-made laws, whether he knew they were man-made or not. So in being transparent, I said, “For instance, I don't believe it is wrong for women to wear pant suits.
He just repeated what I said, made no comment and went out the door.

You said earlier that you told him that you, him and his wife needed to sit down to talk, but he didn't have time. Honestly, I don't blame him. If someone walked up to me and said, "I don't believe in man-made laws; I think it's okay for women to wear pant suits," that comes across as confrontational, and I would likely pass on discussing anything further.

Now, were someone to come up and say, what are your beliefs on holiness or outward dress -- that's completely different, because it's not confrontational.

Originally Posted by renee819

Last Sunday, I wasn't as welcome. He touched on holiness, saying that we shouldn't look like the world. (I agree with that when I look around and see how the world dresses) and then said, “What you [do] in the pew is between you and God but who gets on this pulpit is between me and God.” Making a difference between the saints and the pulpit.

I see nothing wrong with his statement. It's quite true actually. What people do is between them and God; who is allowed to preach or speak is between the Pastor and God. Like it or not, personal prejudices aside, the Pastor is the one responsible for the church and who ministers. If there are any legal issues, who do you think gets contacted - Joe Schmo in the third row? No, it's the Pastor. If a person preaches at a church and later is found to be a fraud -- who's the one who gets questioned and criticized? The Pastor. So the statement, regardless of if you like it or not, is absolutely correct.

Originally Posted by renee819

I believe I was innocent of any wrong doing, but you make it seem like a crime. I was trying to find what their standards were, to see if I wanted to go there, and take my grt. grandchildren there. And also, if they knew what I believe, they might not want me to come there.

No one is saying it's a crime. I said it was an odd way to get information. Based on your account above, I still believe it was an odd way to ask for information. I guarantee, had you been less confrontational at the beginning and asked what they believed, he probably would have told you.