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Old 03-20-2014, 03:20 AM
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Re: My Talk With God:

Whenever a believer in Messiah Jesus speaks or writes on His behalf, especially in the first person, as though the Lord was speaking through the person, they are, at the very least, implying that they are a prophet. And at the very most, they are outright proclaiming themselves to be such, for this is the best, most literal definition of a prophet: a mouthpiece or spokesperson for God.

And since the original poster has written to us in first person what he claims are the words of the Lord Jesus, then we must, WE MUST, apply the Spirit-inspired principles that govern what we, as Christ's Body, are supposed to do when a prophet or "prophet" speaks, which is this:

1 Corinthians 14:29,

Quote:
29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
The prophet has permission to speak (or in this case write), but the contents of his or her message must be submitted to others for the purpose of judging what was said/written, to either authenticate or dismiss the message.

Aquila has done this much, and is to be commended for allowing others to judge what he claims is a "word from the Lord".

With all that being said, for whatever it is worth, I give my judgment...

After reading just the first few statements, I was convinced that what I was reading was not something the Lord would say. I quote:

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My child...each of you think that I authored your respective lists.
For this point forward, much was made against the idea of "lists".

I have to say it: God is the one that creates lists, especially lists of "do's and don'ts".

Note the following lists authored by God:

1.) The Decalogue, or Ten Commandments

Moses, under inspiration, even calls them the "Ten Commandments" (See Exodus 34:28, Deuteronomy 4:13, and 10:4).

This list was created, compiled, and commanded into existence by the LORD.

2.) The six things the LORD hates, with the seventh making for an abomination:

Proverbs 6:16-19,

Quote:
16. These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17. A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18. An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19. A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Here, another very obvious list is generated by our God. These items are enumerated and given in a specific order, the very definition of a list.

3.) The Genealogies (See 1 Chronicles 1-9).

God inspired nine chapters worth of lists of who's who in His Word!

4.) A sampling of the varied works of the flesh:

Galatians 5:19-21,

Quote:
19. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20. Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21. Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
5.) What becomes of people who are given over to uncleanness by God and ought to be considered reprobates:

Romans 1:28-32,

Quote:
28. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29. Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30. Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31. Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32. Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Another Holy Spirit-inspired, God-derived "list".

These five items are but a mere demonstration of just how much our Savior is into "lists". I do not see how Yeshua, then, through the Spirit, would condemn us for generating lists, especially lists that separate and divide, and make an obvious distinction between what is and is not righteous.

For example, works of the flesh are "don'ts". Do we all agree?

So, from that point forward, since the opening statements, in my opinion, seem contrary to the revealed appreciation God has for making lists, I think we can conclude that the Lord would not have said what is claimed He said.

And if the opening statements then are, at the least, suspect, and at the most, outright contradictions, how much more of the contents can be trusted?

I have no personal vendetta against Aquila, nor wish to publicly argue and fight over whether "thus saith the Lord".

As the Lord said in John 5:30,

Quote:
30. I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
As I read the original post, I judged. I for one believe my judgment is just, because I do not seek my own will in this. I only want for God's will to be done in this matter.

Did the Lord speak to our brother?

All I can say is what he himself said:

Quote:
...it all came as a block of emotions to my spirit... not necessarily words...
Even the author admits to having to paraphrase and apply an interpretation to the "block of emotions" he received.

Perhaps the Lord was speaking, and did convey, through a "block of emotions" a message to Aquila. I will not say against it. But we have a right, even a duty to question the interpretational paraphrasing by which the "block of emotions" has been presented.

I submit then, that, even if the Lord was communicating, the message may have been mis-understood or not received properly.

More than that, I cannot say. But, since we are commanded by the Holy Scriptures to judge prophetic utterances, I have at least, done my part to give my judgment. In this case, it happens to be against what was shared.

Some have taken heart and received what Aquila wrote. I do not say you are wrong and I am right. But I do exhort all of us to sincerely compare everything that was written to the Word and consider what I've shared here thoroughly, before any possible, lasting damage is done.

Lord, correct your servant if I have come against you!
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