Oneness Questions

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Yes they would. They believe that second human person has God in Him.

BTW if you are saying they are One in Divine Spirit (meaning the second person is God too), then you don't really believe the second person was human, but human AND Divine.

That would be Binitarianism or Polytheism depending on how some other factors

They might believe that Jesus had God "in" him. However, I see the "in him" as not being like one sits in a car. But rather "in him" means within His very being. They are "one". On an unexplainable spiritual level they are one (in union). Jesus is therefore a man who was one with God from conception. That means that Jesus is truly a man. However, the man Christ Jesus was also God.

I believe the word "person" to denote a distinct "self-conscious" reality. The "I" that speaks to "thou". Therefore, we see a human person in the man Christ Jesus, especially when He prays to or speaks of the Father. And a divine person in the Father, especially when He speaks to or speaks of the man Christ Jesus (the Son). Although we see two distinct "persons" (self-conscious realities) they share a union in being. They are one.

Examples often help, especially when concepts that are theoretical like this are being discussed. I posted this before, but here is an example of the way I see it:

Sit back and imagine hanging out with Jesus as one of the disciples. You'd be observing a man... one who is clearly a man... yet you'd sense that this man is also... God. And while on most occasions He'd speak as a man who loved His Heavenly Father and faithfully prayed to His Heavenly Father... there would also be times wherein He would speak from the divine prerogative as though He were His Heavenly Father. You might even begin to get goose-bumps when Jesus was beginning to teach and got "the look"... or what you've come to know as "the God look". You'd sense that this wasn't merely a man. He is a man who is also God.

There is a mutual "indwelling". Divinity indwelling humanity, and with that, humanity indwelling divinity. Jesus put it this way...

John 10:30
30 I and my Father are one. (KJV)

John 10:38
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. (KJV)

John 12:45
45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. (KJV)

John 14:7-10
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. (KJV)

The very being of God indwells a human being, the man Jesus Christ. There is no getting around it. Those are the very words Jesus used to describe His oneness with the Father. You see, He is Jesus, the Son of God. A man who was one with God from His very conception. The man in which God chose to manifest Himself, and through whom God chose to reveal His very own glory. A man, in whom the Father chose to share His very being and nature with a human being. Jesus was indeed a man. And... so much more.