07-10-2014, 08:13 PM
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Re: Water/Spirit Doctrine Destroyed Beautifully
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Originally Posted by Sean
Prax, you can just smell the bias in his position. The word "except" is used in the passage 2 times. Verse 5 for both water and Spirit, meaning "unless", which makes Spirit optional. But the water part in their mind is NOT optional.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except(unless, optional) a man be born again(optional), he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except(unless, optional) a man be born of water(optional) and of the Spirit(optional)..(the clarification of BORN AGAIN above, ), he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Using ambiotic fluid to replace water baptism in this passage is absolutely ridiculous....LOL
I guess those that are born of a C- section cannot be saved, because they are not born of the water...LOL
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"Unless" does not mean optional
"Unless" actually EXCLUDES something from being optional
The word is a conditional (we learned about that in math)
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