Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Father?

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Sean

Look folks, I have been reading Bernards book and I think we are all talking about the same thing...

I believe that The Spirit of Jesus is the Father of the O.T.

The Spirit of the Father was indwelling Jesus

I agree with Bernard that the Man, Jesus did not preexist before the virgin birth, but only in the mind/will of God as a plan as he states on page 182...... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...78677474,d.cGU

Bernard says that Jesus had a human spirit also...I agree. etc. etc.



My only real beef is...Was Jesus "born" God, or did he "ascend" to be God?

From CONCEPTION He was God.

Matthew 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.