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Originally Posted by ApostolicKitty
Well, you may have a disdain for charismatics and attribute the things the Lord shows them to certain foods going through their digestive systems, but I don't share your disdain and I know better than to believe pizza is the great influencer of a charismatic's dreams.
I used to be one of them. There are those that have a counterfeit spirit and those that don't. I did not have a counterfeit one. A counterfeit spirit would have never got me here.
I was taught by my charismatic pastor to seek the Lord and His word no matter what came from the pulpit. I was hungry for the Lord and keep seeking Him. The Lord showed me many things even then. It wasn't pizza.
I asked the Lord to show me truth no matter what. The spirit I had, and still do, is the same one that said to me one day almost 16 year ago, "You do everything else in my name. Why not baptized?" God opened my eyes.
If she is still hungry, and if she really desires truth, He can do the same for her... and no one will be able to unconvince her, just the same as they cannot unconvince me.
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Amen. I was a "Charismatic" for 4 years before being baptized in Jesus name and it was a year after that before I understood Oneness fully.
As a Charismatic among the Jesus People I had dreams that came to pass just like I still do. I had answered prayers just as I do now. I had leading of the Holy Spirit just as I do now. My friends had many of the same experiences.
Some "Apostolics" count that all as
NOTHING. I like you was LED by the Holy Spirit to ultimately come to baptism in Jesus name and Oneness.
That is one thing I agree with the UPC. They say the
FULL STANDARD of salvation is
Acts 2:38. To me its absurd to say one has the Holy Ghost baptism and they are not at least partly saved.
I have always felt the Spirit baptism is the
HIGH POINT of the 3 step plan of salvation.
There are Charismatics that walk closer to God than "Apostolics". Some of them are more Christ like than some Apostolics.
I certainly dont give people
ASSURANCE of
final salvation apart from the Oneness message. I continually teach Oneness doctrine to anyone who will listen.
Neither would I give
ASSURANCE to Apostolics who dont walk in truth or in Gods will.
And also I am not sure Misty is not baptized in Jesus name. I have SEEN people be baptized in Jesus name at IHOP. I have HEARD with my ears one of the teachers teach
Acts 2:38 as the plan of salvation.
Afterwards down the road the Pastor seemed to quench that truth from coming forth to his shame but it is not a sure thing she is not baptized in Jesus name.
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