Love One Another and the Cross

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Originally Posted by shazeep

i would not disagree, but that obviously does not mean that you have found the perfect expression for these concepts, like you think you have. Many will cry "Lord, Lord," or iow nod their heads in unison with you, and yet never find salvation.

There will always be people like that. But it remains that when a person genuinely carries their cross and denies oneself, they are building on the rock.

It seems you have an aversion to thinking we can't know exactly how to be saved, while the bile plainly says we can. If you think we cannot really know, the bible certainly does not give that impression.

1 Jhn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

And many will disagree with you, and yet find it. It is a spiritual principle that must be lived, not a religious fact to be memorized.

That is a given, Shazeep. Everyone here knows that.

Saying that you believe Christ died for your sins will not get you into heaven, and refusing to say it does not condemn you. This is also a Scriptural principle, outlined in many passages.

It is not a matter of saying it. It is a matter of the heart, and if we genuinely believe He died as us and that is the the only way to heaven, and we distinctly experience a touch of God after He sees that faith in our lives when we're baptized into that death.

God judges one's heart, and when you agree with some parts of Scripture, even verbally, often, and loudly, while denying the parts you don't like, it shows in the cracks in your theology, in a bunch of ways, Pride foremost. And it can be pretty much all downhill from there.

Of course. Again, you're preaching to the choir. That is basic Bible understanding 101.