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Originally Posted by shazeep
ok, just beware that that might easily be "a false sense of superiority,"
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But you repeatedly responded to all i said as if i received or was told what im saying, as though you had the superior concept no matter how much i told you i studied this on my own. So...
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as we tend to be susceptible to that. There are signs, if that is the case. And sorry, i wasn't trying to hold you to one verse, i meant like one passage; attempting to avoid...that ^ lol
Romans makes a good argument, but it is a different one. This is not about salvation by works, no matter how often you bring that up; otherwise the Constantinian Model of salvation is valid. So possibly--to approach this from Romans, i might put it as a "failure to die in baptism" issue:
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it is salvaton by works no matter how much you deny it.
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1What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
but i'm at a loss as to how to develop this off the cuff, and i would need a day.
How does one show that the Acts 2:38 model might be done disingenuously (Constantine), or even in ignorance? Except by works?  lemme think about it.
7Let us be glad, rejoice, and give Him glory,n
because the marriage of the Lamb has come,
and His wife has prepared herself.o
8She was given fine linen to wear, bright and pure.p
For the fine linen represents the righteous acts of the osaints.q
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Please indicate what remit sins and makes us he just in your assessment.
As far as knowing who is sincere in heart a boy he dross. ... who cares? God knows . The only thing fruits have to do with it is informing us. They are important as I've repeatedly ad nauseum affirmed. But the thing that saves is what God sees.
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