Rock Hudson Repented Before His Death

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Now, 1st John 1:8 and 1st John 3:8, do they contradict each other? If the answer is no, then explain why it's no.

No contradiction. There's a difference between some who CONTINUES in sin and one who sins.

He who sins is of the devil. Mistakes are made when you are a child, but as you get older you should be doing better correct?

Mistakes? Or sins? Of course one should be growing up into the stature of Christ.

James 4:17 states that if you know to do good and not do it it is sin unto you.

Written to believers. It would seem to be the inference that Christians are being told that their neglect to do good is sin.

1st Timothy 1:13 Paul makes a point to tell his readers that he was a blasphemer, a violent persecutor of Christians, but then says he did it in ignorance, and unbelief. This was prior to Paul's revelation of Messiah.

Yet AFTER his conversion he calls himself chief of sinners. AFTER his conversion he talks about the struggle within his flesh---"oh wretched man that I am!" He speaks in the present tense not in past tense. Was he continuing to persecute Christians? No. Did he still struggle in his flesh and even fail? 100% sure.

In Hebrews 6:5-6 the believer is warned that because they have tasted the good word of God with the powers of the age to come, yet have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open disgrace.

Right. Jesus died once, He will not be crucified again. There is no other way to salvation. If someone walks away from the faith and rejects the one and only death of Jesus, there is no other means for salvation. Those who become reprobates, those who continue in sin and pride and self righteousness, those whose consciences are seared with a hot iron, calloused beyond remorse and godly sorrow.

Hebrews was written to Jewish Christians who were continuously tempted to return to the law, seeking salvation by works. The writer of Hebrews is warning them that they cannot find another way to salvation.

Hence the reason why Jesus tells the religious Judeans that the lowest of the Judean cast system would enter the kingdom of heaven before them.

It's CASTE system, FYI.

Because the religious believed that they had no need of their Messiah, but the Judean lower down the totem pole knew he needed Christ. But once they were to come into the Body of Christ they were to go from child, to youth, to full aged adult 1st John 2:13-14. Not do what you prescribe of constantly believing that you don't know why God even deals with you? Bro, either that is some super overdose of humble steroids, or you have some issues.

There's nothing wrong with having a sense of being unworthy. I know you need me to be insincere or having a deep seated psychosis, but honestly that's all I meant by that statement. No need to overthink it.

DB? PROBABLY? So Philippians 3:14 is unattainable? John 5:48 means...what? Bro, probably? You teach a gospel which isn't good news at all. You teach that Jesus holds out a carrot on a stick and you chase it running on a treadmill.

I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me HEAVENWARD in Christ Jesus. The prize of Christlikeness is received at the resurrection. When we shall see Him. I John 3:1-4. In the meantime one PRESSES. Paul even said he had not "apprehended" the prize. Are you greater than our brother Paul?

John 5:48 means nothing because there is no such scripture.

Wrong. The TRUE Gospel is good news because it's saying you don't have to work for anything. It's not a treadmill. It's a walk and relationship with Jesus. Legalism is hard work. YOUR Gospel is bad news.

Dude, you quoted Romans 7:24, and 1st Timothy 1:15 in your posts indicating that Paul believed that he was foremost of all sinners, and a wretched man! That means he was an active sinner who not only was the first of all sinners, but a wretched sinner! No, falling down, no dusting off, but someone who is barely hanging on ready to ignite. This man was converted when he was arresting and putting to death Christians? Yet, you teach that Paul believed he was number one sinner, and wretched just waiting to kill again? No, DB, I never called 1st John confused, bipolar, but what you believe is confused and extremely bipolar.

Paul said he was chief of sinners. Paul said he was a wretched man. HE said it, not me.

I believe it shows the humility and meekness of a great Christian man, Paul.