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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
But you never even attempted to explain how this could be possible.
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Explain to me what Paul meant when he called himself chief of sinners.
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How are we to take these statements of Paul in the light of your doctrine of Paul living actively in sin as a wretched man?
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Romans 7
21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
It's a daily war of flesh vs. Spirit. You'll not find me ever stating that Paul was living actively in sin.
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I guess in your book a pastor who commits adultery should just apologize and get back into the pulpit.
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Nope. You're wrong.
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Matter fact they are pretty sick of the whole dog and pony show.
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"They"? Who are the "they"? Are they like the "they" of the "they say"? Like "they say if you wear a ball cap too much you'll go bald." This anonymous group of people that answer surveys and polls and "they" feed us statistics to cite?
If the Gospel of Grace is a dog and pony show---what is the Apostolic movement? If "they" are so sick of hearing about God's love, and grace, and mercy, and compassion---why aren't they just flocking to the chosen few who have "the truth"? The implication is that "they" are looking for what YOU have and preach EB! So how is that going? Do you take time to get off of the Internet long enough to win the "they" that are soooo sick of hearing about that super syrupy sweet grace message for "the truth" you possess???
Dog and pony show indeed...
I've seen the show. Watched the performances at church from the pulpit to the pew. Everybody playing the game of "we are the only ones going to heaven!"
congratulating one another for how super spiritual and how super special we were. Camp meetings were worse. Conferences, off the charts.
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Super sad, man what you believe in is a total sham. Foisted upon people who are either as messed up as you, or totally naive to the Word of God. Therefore they fall prey to your message.
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Yeah, we are messed up. Every one of us.
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I doubt shame has ever posed an issue. :
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You know me so well.
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Sorry bro, but real humility is pleasing to God. Not that sappy pulpit posing, where you go on and on about how you can't understand why God even deals with you. That is nauseating. :
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I know you have heard my preaching and are able to tell that!
No, Paul was living for God admonishing others to live overcoming lives. You on the other hand constantly remind people how it isn't obtainable until their in heaven.[/QUOTE]