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Old 07-06-2016, 09:59 PM
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Re: Are all Catholics lost?

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So how can a person be saved if they believe a doctrine the bible contradicts?
Like standards? You don't believe standards must be kept in order to obtain salvation (and I agree with your position).....but a large percentage of oneness pentecostals do (probably still the majority, though losing ground). You know those who hold that if a man has a beard, if a woman trims her hair, if anyone wears a sleeveless shirt, or a woman wears pants or even capris, a man wears shorts, etc, they are sinning and going to hell. They are teaching that people can't be saved without obeying their standards. They are cutting people off from grace. Would not the entire book of Galatians and the full force of Paul's disdain apply directly to these, your "brethren"?
If someone thinks standards save then they're lost. Period. I don't care who they are. It's nothing but the blood that saves. I really don't know anyone who thinks standards save.

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How much correct doctrine must one believe to be saved? Are futurists saved? Calvinists? Oneness Sabbatarians? Do you believe everything right?
I am talking about the serious issues that deal with Hebrews 6:1-2's elements. There are issues we can be off on and still be saved. But there are others we cannot be off on and be saved. When someone says the bible does NOT contain all the truth God wants, I cannot believe such a person is saved. That's not even on the same level as someone keeping sabbath as opposed to another who does not. there are degrees of what is acceptable and what is not.

I know I am not 100% on everything. But we are talking about major major issues like the things I listed in Catholic's beliefs. Are you saying you sincerely believe a person can think the Bible does Not contain all truth and still be saved? What kinds of beliefs are not in the bible that one is required to know that are in reality damnable? Who knows? the sky's the limit.

But are you saying the things I listed as beliefs of the Catholic church can be overlooked and don't affect salvation?
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