I'll go ahead and answer some of this just for the sake of doing so...
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Bro? Personal with who? Was I personal? Then I'm a better guesser than I thought?
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Come on and quit playing hapless victim. Yes you were personal. When you start making snide remarks about the physical looks of a mans family you are crossing the line. You could have said they have let their standards down, or some other verbiage. No father wants his daughters looks to be trashed by another grown man. If you can't see the inappropriateness of that then I'm not sure what to tell you.
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Interestingly enough if you would check my postings over the years (not thinking you would) but if you did, you would find that is how I usually portray the ones who basking in their new found liberty.
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I'm well aware. I know that you think myself, Charnock, Steve Pixler, and a great many more are lost and damned without hope, as is anyone who doesn't see things according to your paradigm. Folks with your viewpoint (the most outspoken representative on this board would be Steve Epley) not only condemn former oneness Pentecostals, but also those who still identify as oneness Pentecostals, but who have moved beyond the legalistic standards. The way ya'll shut people out of the Kingdom of God who may indeed be entering in reminds me of the words of Christ in
Matthew 23:13.
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Originally Posted by Jason B
But you good ole boys are holier than thou and in self righteousness point and sneer at everyone else. The phonyness of the ultra con love is always manifest when someone leaves their fold. You guys see it as standing for the old paths and uncompromising, everyone else sees it as emulations, jealousy, bitterness and hatred.
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But? Yes, indeed, the good old "but" usually enlisted when you attempt to remove a brother's proverbial speck while flaming out your beamed up eyeball.
Here comes the love bombing from the side who is trying to prove brand X are bad. Within just a few key strokes of rebuking me you fly right into "good ole boys who are self righteous dinosaurs, who aren't even smart enough to drag themselves out of the tar pit. Physician heal thy self.
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Is there a log in my eye? Perhaps. Certainly not an impossibility. However, you fail to distinguish between a rebuke based on doctrine and spirit vs personal rebuke. Is it ok for me to say that I believe your entire theological system is built like a house of cards on a handful of scriptures that must be specially interpreted to arrive at your movements unique interpretations and doesn't have a lick of sound exegetical or hermeneutical support? While at the same time, not condemning the whole lot of you all to burn in hell for all of eternity?
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Phoniness? So, I can determine that what you have posted in this post can be taken as honest to God agape love from you? Just instead of pointing out the nonsense of those who go native, you just do it the other way around. You just blow torch the ones left behind who dare to voice their opinion?
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Yes phoniness. Here is the root of the problem. The LOVE of the ultra conservative holiness adherent is often times (NOT all times) a LOVE for the doctrine more than a love for God or people. And no strong love can be present without a hatred for the opposite. This hatred comes out against those who have left the beloved and adorned doctrine & identity.
And the defense of the hatred? The personal attacks? The curses and promises of eternal hell fire? "But, but, ya'll do it too!"
Not really. There are exceptions (DA for example), but mostly there is a tone of civility towards the people in that movement, even if there is a hostility against the doctrine. Most ex-oneness Pentecostals/ ex-ultra cons do not view all OPs as lost. But ya'll not only view all of us as lost, but seem to glory in it, as if it is a contest to see who can condemn the exes in the strongest terms. The more loudly someone proclaims "he's going to burn in hell" the bigger their badge of righteousness. The more frequent the pats on the back from the amen corner.
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