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Old 08-03-2017, 10:30 PM
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Re: Help! Tormented dreams

Aquila, you wrote this in post #67 on page 7:

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In deliverance ministries, based on my experience, what can take the most time is confirming if there is indeed an evil spirit present. If the Holy Ghost reveals it through the gift of discernment, one can know instantly. But if the gift of discernment is silent, deliverance ministers don't just walk in shooting in every direction hoping to hit something. They want to confirm that a spirit is actually there, they pray and wait for the spirit to manifest. Jesus never had this problem...And if one's full of the Spirit, this isn't much of a problem at all....
Then, on page 8, post #75, you wrote this:

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When Jesus is present, devils reveal themselves.
How is it that deliverance ministers need to take a wait and see approach, which you claim can "take the most time", in order to confirm the presence of evil spirits by waiting for it to manifest if evil spirits manifest when Jesus is present?

Isn't that admitting that the wait and see approach, which can take a long time, means Jesus isn't present with or in the deliverance minister, and that they aren't "full of the Spirit", seeing as how they are having such a problem getting the evil spirit to manifest so they can confirm its presence?

Secondly, how is it that Jesus never had that problem but the people He has allegedly called into deliverance ministry do? What, He refuses to equip them with the same ability He had?
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