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Old 08-03-2017, 10:32 PM
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Re: Help! Tormented dreams

Aquila, on page 7, post #69, you wrote:

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The knowledge regarding evil spirits that people have is often based on their study of the Bible, their study of other books and materials, and personal experience...
What other books and materials would one study to gain knowledge of evil spirits, if not exclusively the Bible?

How can a person's experience teach them things about evil spirits that the Bible doesn't teach?

Then, in the same post, a bit later you wrote:

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Now, what I wrote about above is regarding knowledge and study. However, when we deal with the discerning spirits through the Holy Ghost, all of that goes out the window...
How can a charismata of the Holy Spirit, like discerning of spirits, take the knowledge and understanding one gleans from studying the Bible and throw it out the window?

Again, same post, later:

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The Holy Spirit generally doesn't set us down and impart knowledge on the finer details of evil spirits...And, as I said before, this means we should expect a broad range of perspectives and understandings in this area...
So then, what is the source of knowledge regarding evil spirits you claim can be had by studying other books and materials? How is it that the Spirit of Truth won't lead us into all truth in this matter, such that we have to go outside of the Spirit of Truth, that is, the Holy Spirit, to gain understanding?

How does a broad range of perspectives and understandings in this area not lead to subjective, un-trustworthy, extra-Biblical revelations?

If the Holy Scriptures are so limited and the Holy Spirit of Truth isn't doing this for us, then wouldn't it follow that the perspectives and understandings of this area would be narrow, not broad?

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As for discerning angels. It does happen. It isn't as common...
Why not? Are there more evil spirits than there are angels, even though the author of Hebrews claims that the angels are innumerable (See Hebrews 12:22)? Are these angels not given to us as the heirs of salvation, per the same author's words early on in the epistle (Hebrews 1:14)?

How then is it that evil spirits are all around us, afflicting and over-powering God's people, constantly manifesting themselves, even to the point of giving off horrendous odors, and yet, angels barely ever do so? Is there nothing wrong in this, in your line of thinking?

Finally, same post, you wrote:

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Why are we so troubled by anyone who feels called to a ministry doing one of the very things Jesus said we'd be known for?
First, no one here is troubled by anything Jesus said in the end of Mark 16. What's troubling is the manner in which some undertake to fulfill that portion of the Gospels.

Secondly, on page 8, post #74, you wrote:

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There has to be a healthy balance...
But in page 7, from post #69, you showed how Jesus listed seven different things the New Covenant church ought to be doing or be apart of. So, wouldn't the correct balance regarding evil spirits be that this part of New Covenant ministry is merely a seventh of the overall picture Jesus gave to us from Mark 16? So how is it all these evil spirits have so much sway and power in the lives of God's saints, even to the point of suggesting Modest Mama is being haunted by one because of some dreams she has been having?

Is that not the height of irresponsibility, to take a forum member that you don't know personally, who doesn't post here often, whose walk with God you have not observed personally, who confesses to some frightening dreams, for you to then play into her fears and cause her to possibly think her problem is not only demonic, but that the reason it's possibly demonic is because of some lack or issue in her own life?

See (from page 7, post #70):

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Just something in your original post struck me as indicating the possible presence of a spirit...
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