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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Here is what I refer to.



Jesus said his love IS dependent on something we do.

John 15:10

10If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Jesus love is conditional.

Is grace dependent on anything we do?

James 4:6

6But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

It seems that to receive grace there is something we must do.

So to believe or teach Gods love and grace is not dependent on anything we do would be overgeneralizing would it not?

And if it were true that his love and grace were in no way dependent on what we do then osas doctrine would obviously be true.

I read John 15:10 as OUR love is conditional. If we love Him, we will keep His Commandments.

After all, the Word says - “WHO shall separate us from the love of Christ?...Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

2 Timothy speaks further - “If WE believe not, yet HE abide faithful: HE cannot deny himself.”


It is nothing lacking in Him, it is what is lacking in us.