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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
That is the "appearance of age" argument and it has many problems. First of all, it is non-falsifiable meaning you can't prove it's wrong. Using this same logic, how do we know we ALL didn't come into existence 2 seconds ago complete with a lifetime of memories and the illusion that we are our present age?
Also, God cannot lie. If something has a HISTORY to its age, such as the rings on a tree, for God to have created that tree would mean he "lied" to us about its past. Now Jesus DID create wine, which is an aged product (I notice that a few people brought this up who in other discussions will argue that it was non-alcoholic, but I digress...) but it had no history. Just as Adam was created older then a newborn but his internals would have shown him to be as young as a newborn as well. No blemishes from having grown up -since he never did.
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See this is my point. Im not talking about a mere appearance for the sake of looking a certain way. Let me give an example of light and the universe
We see now the light from many bodies that would have taken millions of years to reach here.
Let's assume God created all things. He also created the Universe (expanding or not) with those stars and other bodies far far away. But he wanted us to be able to see them NOW for certain things or reasons...maybe just to admire his creation, whatever.
So God speeds UP the light...or he reduces the time or whatever. It's not a mere apparence. It's very real. It's not an illusion for the sake of fooling Atheists. That is the wrong conclusion.
Remember if God really is all powerful then perhaps he can make a million years of actual time happen or occur in a breadth of time. Again that is not a mere apparency of something. It will look old because it IS old. Im not saying He made it LOOK old. Im saying it really IS that old chemically.
It does not require God to be a liar either. That assumes a motive that was meant to deceive us.
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