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Originally Posted by Praxeas
See this is my point. Im not talking about a mere appearance for the sake of looking a certain way. Let me give an example of light and the universe
We see now the light from many bodies that would have taken millions of years to reach here.
Let's assume God created all things. He also created the Universe (expanding or not) with those stars and other bodies far far away. But he wanted us to be able to see them NOW for certain things or reasons...maybe just to admire his creation, whatever.
So God speeds UP the light...or he reduces the time or whatever. It's not a mere apparence. It's very real. It's not an illusion for the sake of fooling Atheists. That is the wrong conclusion.
Remember if God really is all powerful then perhaps he can make a million years of actual time happen or occur in a breadth of time. Again that is not a mere apparency of something. It will look old because it IS old. Im not saying He made it LOOK old. Im saying it really IS that old chemically.
It does not require God to be a liar either. That assumes a motive that was meant to deceive us.
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Go back and look at my post on the speed of light. It is an involved discussion and just to get things going without posting a book length article I obviously left a lot of things out.
Another thing to remember is that through spectrographical analysis of the light we can see chemical processes taking place within the stars that are millions of light years away. This process, called Nucleosynthesis, happens at a predictable rate based upon the star's mass. The larger the star, the faster it's rate and the shorter its "life span." A smaller star like our sun is stable over a much longer life span than a huge star like Sirius, the "Dog Star."
We observe the processes and they are like the "tree rings" of the individual star. Of course God "could have" created the stars with an appearance of age, but why the deception? He carried the "deception" so far that we are seeing things today that no human being has ever seen. Did God really pound the surface of Pluto 6,000 years ago just so He could fool a single generation of humans? Yes, He could - but why would He? What is suggested about the character of such a "God."
Also, from my experience many of the people who promote these "deceptions" by God are deceivers themselves. Just look at how the YEC's hero "Dr. Dino," Kent Hovind and his wife thought that it was Okay" to decive the IRS. Both are currently sitting in Federal prisons crying about being "persecuted." No, they just lied repeatedly on their tax forms. Of course it's easy for them to believe that it was okay to deceive the IRS - their God is deceiving scientists. They're character just follows the character of their "god."
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